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Discussion in 'Religion & Spirituality Forum' started by 84niner, Oct 28, 2008.

  1. 84niner

    84niner Full Access Member

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    I have for years listened to pastors and leaders of various churches I attended that when we die our bodies go into the ground and we have soul sleep and when Christ returns we come out of the grave before the Tribulation and be raptured.

    I now find that this is untrue.

    Our Spirit/Soul immediately goes to be with God who made us before we were born. I now know that the Spirit is the intellect and the Soul is self. Our bodies which is clay goes back to dirt.

    I also know that all of us must go thru the tribulation. There also will be a 10 day trial...this is where the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit takes place. In other words...when we are taken up before the Anti-Christ we are to let the Holy Spirit speak for us and if we don't then this is blasphemy.

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    I'm trying to figure out if you're serious or joking. Neither is true.
     
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    If you will share with me scripture explaining what I mentioned is not true I would appreciate your comments and I would appreciate any scripture backing up your belief.

    This way I will be able to comment on what you believe I said is not true.
     
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    You don't think it's true that he's either serious or joking?
     
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    LOL
     
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    This is the biggest pile of horseshit. The claim that the body is made of clay alone is laughable. There's also one big problem of it going back to the dirt...the coffin.
     
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    I witnessed a civil war era graveyard removed some years ago and I can assure you the only thing found was a few bones and these bodies were placed in coffins and the bodies went back to dirt. I can tell by your avatar just how much common sense you may or may not have. Try talking about the subject at hand. Therefore, if you have the capacity to comprehend a thought and process a thought without a juvenile comment like "This is the biggest pile of horseshit" it would be much appreciated.

    If you have a thought then process the thought in an adult manner...Runt!

    I notice you have a statement from Voltaire. Well, if you know anything about Voltaire you should know he was an outspoken critic of religious intolerance and persecution. So, I ask why do you and others that have spoken and lol are intolerant and persecute?

    Instead of saying "This is the biggest pile of horseshit" you should have used the word "absurdities". Let me give you an example of what else Voltaire said: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities".
     
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    Voltaire also believed in reason over faith. We could get into the definition of religious intolerance being aimed at atheists, heretics and pretty much anybody who doesn't believe in the predominant faith; but I'll leave that for another discussion.

    In talking about the subject at hand; reason would lead me to conclude that the body IS NOT made of clay: but rather cells, tissue, organs and bone.

    As for my quote, I believe you have the right to say these things and would defend that right. But, if I were to say "There is no God", would you defend my right to say that?
     
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    First of all I don't want to get into a debate about Voltaire or whether you believe in God or not and if I would defend your right....I don't care! We all have free will. Therefore, if you do not believe in God is your choice and I don't care if you believe or not.

    The people I respect in this world is not the most intelligent like the Volaires or the Einsteins of the world but those that may not graduated even from high school that has a grasp and understanding of the "Word of God". You can be the most intelligent human being on earth, but if you do not know and understand God's word then you are the dumbest person on earth.

    You can analyze dirt and find the same elements in dirt that is in the human body. So, since you could not offer scripture I will now give a few verses for you to chew over: I Thess 4:13-18., ECCL 12:6-7 and ECCL 9:5-10.

    Let me add that in I Thess 4:13-18 God is saying: "do not be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep"., God is saying those that are already dead are with God. Your body is in the ground and goes back to dirt!!!!!!!!!!
     

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