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Discussion in 'Religion & Spirituality Forum' started by LarryD, Mar 3, 2008.

  1. Golden Hammer

    Golden Hammer South Pole Elf

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    And if you are unable to find a post where anyone claimed to have proof without faith....will you never post on this board again?
     
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    No. But I am still going to find where you said that you had proof of God's existence. I think it is hilarious that you are now claiming you never said it when you and I went at that very statement in some depth.
     
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    But there must be other intelligent life in the universe.......
     
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    Your welcome. The fallacy of proving a negative cuts both ways. Which is why scientists and people with some sense of logic and honesty don't use it. The religious use it all the time though.
     
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    I look forward to you finding that. I claim, as I always have that there is circumstances and situations that imply a creator......no different than your 'proof' that we evolved. And, as I have said....time, and time again.....you can't prove the cosmic accident any more firmly than I can prove God exists....so it comes down to faith.
     
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    No, most really don't. The current hypothesis for many that there is a God. When that is disproven, we'll revisit.
     
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    How many different ways must I say it? How many more times must I repeat it? You don't have to DISPROVE a hypothesis. It is the burden of the presenter to PROVE its validity. Otherwise, you absolutely must admit that my Flying Spaghetti Monster has equal validity to your god (which is actually true, though I won't make you admit by default).
     
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    Fixed.
     
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    Oxymoron. Proof is subjective by definition.
     
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    You have to prove it for it to become a law. There can be competing hypothoses until that point. You only want to consider yours as valid while discounting one that includes god. At this point, both are equally valid.

    Sure - just the same way that I would have to accept any religion's God. Of course, the FSM really doesn't have any proof other than a website.
     

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