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Spoiled Season

Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by stratocatter, Sep 1, 2008.

  1. Collin

    Collin soap and water

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    Is it theoretically possible that we would have gone 15-1 if Jake hadn't blown his elbow? Sure, it's possible, but it's unlikely. Your problem yet again is that you just don't understand what happens on the field on Sundays, but you pontificate endlessly anyway. It's not like I want you to never make comments simply because you're ignorant, as everyone is entitled to their opinion. What bugs me is that you are so obviously wrong so often but you don't show any humility whatsoever when discussing football. You state things definitively as if you actually have a good track record when it comes to analyzing the sport as opposed to being a running joke. I have some knowledge of computers, but I'm far from an expert, so when I go in the technology forum I'm more humble and I generally yield to the knowledge of people who clearly know more than I do. Despite all your hilarious missteps in the Panthers forum, you don't do that. Obviously you don't have to, it's just exasperating to have to correct you again and again and again because you so rarely know what you're talking about.
    No, it won't. The idea that double teams free up other rushers is one of the more popular myths among general fans, but it is largely a myth. The tight end isn't going to switch sides just to help out against a right end. What happens at one end is largely independent of what happens at the other end. If the left tackle is going to get help, it will generally be with a running back chip to that side, and if the right tackle is going to get help then it's usually from the tight end. Double teams affect the coverage much moreso than the other pass rushers. A guy staying in to help block means one less receiver running a pattern.

    The only real cases where one pass rusher benefits another is if a defensive tackle pushes the pocket backwards, forcing the QB back into the outside rush of the DEs, or when one DE's pressure flushes the QB away and into the path of the DE on the other side.
     
  2. Thelt

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    I do not claim to be an expert but I suppose I do state things as fact when they are only my opinion. You are the last person who should be critical of this though since you do it more than anyone on here. You are also unable to admit when you are wrong as evidenced by your constantly defending Carr last season even when it was obvious that he would not be starting for most arena league teams.

    Following your logic then, the back helps block the RDE and therefore does not run a pattern. The back is not available as a dump off option. The defense has an extra man available for coverage since the guy who would have been responsible for covering the back is now free. All this leads to the QB holding the ball longer trying to find an open target. This extra second or two allows the LDE to get to the QB. Therefore the RDE helps the LDE get a sack.
     
  3. Collin

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    No, no, no, you're not understanding me. I'm saying that you should be extra humble and cautious about how you express your opinion in the Panthers forum because you have been so horrendously wrong so amusingly often. It's not that people in general shouldn't be assertive, but that you've forfeited your right to that due to your many screw ups.
    Good lord. No one has been more willing to admit when they're wrong than I am. In the case of Carr, I never claimed that he was a great quarterback. I said that he played solidly on the occasions when he did (Indy & the first Saints game), and I also said that he sucked when he did (2nd Saints game). What bothered me is that people blamed Carr for everything and made him the scapegoat for the season. I didn't like that and I won't stand idly by while it happens to someone on the team. But now he's not on the Panthers anymore, so I don't care what you or anyone else says about him.

    See, this is a matter of you being extremely simple-minded. You don't grasp nuance, and so you have trouble understanding anything more complex than generalities. To you, defending Carr from people blaming him for everything wrong with the team is the same as saying that he's an awesome quarterback, but that's just because your brain is underdeveloped.
    It's interesting that you would provide an example both of what I said about you make buffoonish statements, as well as illustrating your own misdirected accusation about not acknowledging errors. Your elaborate scenario notwithstanding, no, the credit in that case would go to the coverage. The RB not leaking into the flat wouldn't matter unless the defensive backs locked down the wide receivers. Instead we have an example of you being informed about something you didn't know, but rather than gratefully assimilating this new information, you choose to make convoluted excuses for what you said originally.
     
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    I know I could drag this out with you for five or six pages but I am not going waste board space. Arguing with you is pointless, you will not engage in a debate without constantly insulting anyone who disagrees with you and touting your own imaginary superior intellect. Just for the record your opinion, not matter how much you cherish it, does not equal fact. Even if I were the forum clown you accuse me of, I much prefer that to the being the soup nazi of the forum.
     
  5. John Fox

    John Fox It Is What It Is

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    For much of my tenure, I have had the benefit of having Jake Delhomme as my starting quarterback. But in the last 18 regular season games, Delhomme has only started four contests, and the 2007 campaign reflected my ability to adapt as venerable Vinny Testaverde led the team with six starts while undrafted rookie Matt Moore made three. It was a season of contrasts, but once again I was able to keep my team together to win three of my last five games.

    Carving out seven wins in such a season only reinforced my reputation as one of the top head coaches in the National Football League.
     
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  6. John Fux

    John Fux my name is john fux and

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    right we really pulld some shit off in 07 because when you get the amount of injerys at quatrerback that we did you keep shovleing snow and make the plays that you make when the game is on the line. its good to see and
     
  7. kickazzz2000

    kickazzz2000 CURRENTLY ON THE CAN

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    :laugh2:
     
  8. John Fux

    John Fux my name is john fux and

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    keep shovleing snow and
     
  9. Black&Black

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