Thanks Roy..

I've come to the point where if we play Chapel Hill, good, if we don't so be it. Others may not feel the same way, but like I mentioned before, there are plenty of other good teams to play.

 

I have to agree with this, Carolina is not the end all be all for me as it may be for some others. I'd rather have some top tier team out of the Big East, Big Ten, or SEC.

 

Well I don't see any of those teams offfering to play UNCC in Charlotte so UNC seems to be the best offer around.

You need to face the reality that Lutz has driven this program into a middle of the pack A-10 program that should be jumping through hoops to play a top ten team in your home town.

No other top ten program from any conference is going to give you that offer, I promise.

UNCC should be doing what Davidson does and what Calipari did at UMASS which is go on the road OOC and play everyone. Forget trying to get 1 for 1's and even 2 for 1's, it isn't going to happen.

 

I never said I expected any of those teams to come to Charlotte, but in the past few seasons they have played Alabama, Syracuse, and Indiana (they came to Halton). I don't exactly remember every team beating down the door to play the 49ers before, there were just better teams in the conference in CUSA.

Outside of Davidson going to Duke (which they didn't do last year b/c they played a TWCA, but do almost everyother year and generally getting stomped), and playing UCLA as part of the Wooden Classic, refresh me on the big name teams they go out and play all the time. NC State was not one of them.

 

Tee fact that they played 2 tops 10's on the road is enough for me. They only get 8 or so OOC games. What do you want them to do, get all 10 top 10teams to play them OOC?

 

They did this past year and only this past year. As I said, Duke doesn't count, that is a game they usually play every year and if not, everyother year, so up until this year they haven't had that kind of mentality. UNC plays them every couple years as well, so both those teams view them a an easy and local W. They challenged them this year, but they've hardly beat there chest taking on all comers under any circumstance.

Look, I think Charlotte has dropped notches since its A10 move. Is it ALL Bobby? No, but a good portion is, but b/c all the negatives that have occurred to the program over the last 3 years doesn't mean you should already start taking it in the ass from any top 10 program that wants to come along. If you lose it helps nothing, if you win, it probably will not help that much b/c the local media and fan base would likely down play it and just liken it to when UNC lost to Santa Clara but still won the Championship in '05. IMO, playing them is not going to be a winning situation unless there is 2 or 3 games over a number of years.

 

Oh, you said Duke doesn't count? Right. Well guess what, it does count because they played them. Also, UNC views us as an easy win. I promise you.

It is all on Lutz. His inability to recruit, evaluate talent and coach has killed that program. And don't give me any of that A10 excuse crap. If Marshall could recruit better players in Rock Hill playing in the big south and Mckillop can do it in the Socon, then Lutz should be able to in an NBA town with superior facilities.

And how can it not help?? Are you retarded? How about it raises your RPI win or lose. How about it gives your players experience against a top 5 team. How about the potential exposure it can bring? How about the excitement it will bring the fans and students? How about taking a chance.

I swear, UNCC fans really don't want to play UNC because then they have nothing to whine about.

 

I said it doesn't count against Duke b/c they've played them everyother year for who knows how long. Up until recently, Davidson was an easy win, Charlotte, not so much, as evident by our wins versus Cincy, Marq., Memphis, and Louisville... we definitely were no Davidson to place on the schedule during that time frame. Roles have reversed since then, but one win alone against UNC will do nothing for you when you'll lose to Monmouth next week.

I still wouldn't put it all on Lutz, there wasn't much of an option besides the A10, a league that is not highly marketable in this area. You can disagree with that all you want, but until Charlotte joined the conf. A10 games were never on TV or even covered in the paper, unless an A10 team was in the top 25. It's fine that you have something against Lutz, I'm apathetic, and wouldn't be against a change like some, but you can paint me as a loving supporter if it helps.

When I said playing them wouldn't help I didn't mean in the short term (a top 10 win, RPI, or confidence), I meant in the long term hence while I said it wouldn't help unless it was a 2 or 3 game series. You don't have to name call, your welcome to have a discussion. If Charlotte were to win the one and only game, people would call it a fluke. If it were a 3 games series for example, even if Charlotte played them close in all 3 games but lost, that would do more for their recruiting profile and TV exposure than one win over them in November, I promise you that. I'd like to see them take a chance but one game will present you no sustained exposure unless you continue to beat the UNC's of the world. One win over them in Nov. and no one remembers you by Feb.

I don't care if they play UNC, if they do great, if they don't, oh well... I don't bitch and cry the conspiracy theories that many do, I just know one win over a top 10 program only puts you on top of the mountain for a week, and one win alone does nothing for sustained success. I'd rather have that, then one shot at UNC, and you can substitute UNC for anyother top 10 program, they're just the team mentioned in this thread and brought up by everyone else. It could be Duke, UCLA, OSU, Florida, etc.

 

This is comment is absurd. So why bother even having a program? What's the use in playing anyone?

You think it is not worth it to play UNC tomorrow because we might lose to someone worse the next day? What kind of logic is that. Ever heard the saying "it's better to have loved and lost than never have to loved at all"?

Newsflash...no league we have played in or ever will play in is highly marketable in this area. It is all on Lutz. He has not brought in the talent to compete in a mid-major league.

He inherited a strong program, rode the coattails of Melvins success and recruits, brought in a couple guys on the programs recent reputation and when forced to produce on his own, fell flat on his face.

There are plenty of coaches producing in smaller leagues, with smaller markets, smaller budgets and poor facilities.

I didn't name call, I asked a question because your stance is so bizzarre and transparent it is silly. Who cares about long-term? Playing UNC in Charlotte or anywhere else cannot hurt this program in any way and who cares about a series? I think it is gracious of UNC to offer to play us in our home town. They should ask us to come there and we should jump at that.

I swear, I used to get upset when people called 49er fans whiney but now on the outside looking in, it is disgusting.

Again, why play anyone then? Just pack up and drop the program because other schools are not looking out for our best long term interests and "sustained" success, whetever that is supposed to mean.

It's just college basketball. Be happy that one of the best teams in the history of the game offered to get on a bus and come play your floundering program. How dare they insult UNCC like that!

 

Pi, I can see where you are coming from, but, if the Niners got rid of Lutz tomorrow, would you be a fan again?