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Seriously, you make yourself look more dumb with each increasing font. What proves you wrong is right there in your own fucking quote. you claimed every tackle from behind was a red. But only tackles from behind that endanger the safety of an opponent are reds. If every tackle from behind was a red there would be no need for that little clause. It couldn't be any more simple.....well, that is to people who aren't deathly afraid of being incorrect about something.

 

Rolf. The post that started a soccer rules brawl.

 

Is there anything in the rules that could punish the players who get tripped and then writhe around on the grass as if they've been shot in the stomach?

I think FUPA was going to make it a red-cardable offense, but Bladder complained about it so it got taken out of the rules.


soccer is fucking gay. POST A LINK THAT SAYS OTHERWISE or SHUT the Fuck UP

 

No, you posted one part of the rules and conveniently left out the rest of it. And I gave you a U.S. soccer link for the same FIFA memorandum I initially linked to via Manitoba.

Actually I gave you a link to a timeline of FIFA rules: http://www.fifa.com/classicfootball/history/law/summary.html

"The game's Law-makers then struck another blow against cynicism in 1998 when the fierce tackle from behind became a red-card offence. With a new century approaching, the commitment to forward-thinking football could not have been clearer."

Nowhere in that timeline does it say that the law was rescinded, as you have repeatedly claimed.

Only on a few things which I actually do know exceptionally well. I just found it hilarious that you finally admitted your level of egotism in trying to paint yourself as an expert on soccer when you clearly don't have any idea what you're talking about.

PARIS, March 11 (1998): FIFA on Tuesday told coaches and referees that all tackles from behind should be punished with a red card at the World Cup finals.

``All tackling from behind is considered to endanger the physical integrity of the opponent, so no tackling from behind will be tolerated by Fifa,'' the world body's general secretary Sepp Blatter said.

``Officially from July 1, but effectively from the kick-off of the World Cup finals on June 10, all tackles from behind will be sanctioned by a red card everywhere on the field of play,'' he told a news conference at the end of Fifa's World Cup workshop with the 32 finalists.

The international football association board, the game's law making body, passed an amendment to Law 12 on Fouls and Misconduct at a meeting last month.

The amendment designates the tackle from behind as serious foul play and therefore a sending-off offence.

However, referees at the workshop wondered whether the tackle had physically to endanger a player for the tackler to be sent off. Blatter told referees that all tackles from behind should receive red cards.

``It's impossible for the referee to see if a tackle is dangerous or not because all tackles from behind put in danger the physical integrity of the opponent,'' he said.

The reason people ask for my opinion on subjects and they don't ask for yours is that people do believe that I'm telling what I honestly think and not just whatever will make me look good. People have seen me admit when I'm wrong, just as they have seen you deny when you are obviously wrong, like here.

You bring this up in every argument whenever you feel like I'm humiliating you. I never admitted to being "a serial liar" because I'm not one. What I acknowledged was that I set people up to see where I would lose a point in order to win the overall argument. It's a clever strategem, but not forthright, so I stopped doing that long ago. No one on this board has been as honest as I am. No one on this board has been more willing to admit when they're wrong. You know that and you have no defense for your own despicable behavior, so you keep trying to pretend that I'm "a serial liar."

PARIS, March 11 (1998): FIFA on Tuesday told coaches and referees that all tackles from behind should be punished with a red card at the World Cup finals.

``All tackling from behind is considered to endanger the physical integrity of the opponent, so no tackling from behind will be tolerated by Fifa,'' the world body's general secretary Sepp Blatter said.

``Officially from July 1, but effectively from the kick-off of the World Cup finals on June 10, all tackles from behind will be sanctioned by a red card everywhere on the field of play,'' he told a news conference at the end of Fifa's World Cup workshop with the 32 finalists.

The international football association board, the game's law making body, passed an amendment to Law 12 on Fouls and Misconduct at a meeting last month.

The amendment designates the tackle from behind as serious foul play and therefore a sending-off offence.

However, referees at the workshop wondered whether the tackle had physically to endanger a player for the tackler to be sent off. Blatter told referees that all tackles from behind should receive red cards.

``It's impossible for the referee to see if a tackle is dangerous or not because all tackles from behind put in danger the physical integrity of the opponent,'' he said.

They don't and never did. You only quoted one part of Law 12 and conveniently left out all Directives included in that section, specifically Decision 4 that dealt with tackles:
"A tackle from behind, which endangers the safety of an opponent, must be sanctioned as serious foul play."

 

Sure. Here is the full text of Law 12:

LAW 12 – FOULS AND MISCONDUCT
Fouls and misconduct are penalised as follows:


Direct Free Kick
A direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a player commits any of the following six offences in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force:

• kicks or attempts to kick an opponent
• trips or attempts to trip an opponent
• jumps at an opponent
• charges an opponent
• strikes or attempts to strike an opponent
• pushes an opponent

A direct free kick is also awarded to the opposing team if a player commits any of the following four offences:

• tackles an opponent to gain possession of the ball, making contact with the opponent before touching the ball
• holds an opponent
• spits at an opponent
• handles the ball deliberately (except for the goalkeeper within his own penalty area)

A direct free kick is taken from where the offence occurred. * (see page 3)


Penalty Kick
A penalty kick is awarded if any of the above ten offences is committed by a player inside his own penalty area, irrespective of the position of the ball, provided it is in play.

Indirect Free Kick
An indirect free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a goalkeeper, inside his own penalty area, commits any of the following four offences:

• takes more than six seconds while controlling the ball with his hands before releasing it from his possession
• touches the ball again with his hands after it has been released from his possession and has not touched any other player
• touches the ball with his hands after it has been deliberately kicked to him by a team-mate
• touches the ball with his hands after he has received it directly from a throw-in taken by a team-mate

An indirect free kick is also awarded to the opposing team if a player, in the opinion of the referee:
• plays in a dangerous manner
• impedes the progress of an opponent
• prevents the goalkeeper from releasing the ball from his hands
• commits any other offence, not previously mentioned in Law 12, for which play is stopped to caution or dismiss a player

The indirect free kick is taken from where the offence occurred. * (see page 3)


Disciplinary Sanctions
Only a player or substitute or substituted player may be shown the red or yellow card.

The referee has the authority to take disciplinary sanctions, as from the moment he enters the field of play until he leaves the fi eld of play after the final whistle.


Cautionable Offences
A player is cautioned and shown the yellow card if he commits any of the following seven offences:
1. is guilty of unsporting behaviour
2. shows dissent by word or action
3. persistently infringes the Laws of the Game
4. delays the restart of play
5. fails to respect the required distance when play is restarted with a corner kick, free kick or throw-in
6. enters or re-enters the fi eld of play without the referee’s permission
7. deliberately leaves the fi eld of play without the referee’s permission

A substitute or substituted player is cautioned and shown the yellow card if he commits any of the following three offences:
1. is guilty of unsporting behaviour
2. shows dissent by word or action
3. delays the restart of play

Sending-Off Offences
A player, substitute or substituted player is sent off and shown the red card if he commits any of the following seven offences:
1. is guilty of serious foul play
2. is guilty of violent conduct
3. spits at an opponent or any other person
4. denies the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within his own penalty area)
5. denies an obvious goalscoring opportunity to an opponent moving towards the player’s goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or a penalty kick
6. uses offensive or insulting or abusive language and/or gestures
7. receives a second caution in the same match

A player, substitute or substituted player who has been sent off and shown the red card must leave the vicinity of the fi eld of play and the technical area.


Decisions of the International F.A. Board
Decision 1
A player who commits a cautionable or sending-off offence, either on or off the fi eld of play, whether directed towards an opponent, a team-mate, the referee, an assistant referee or any other person, is disciplined according to the nature of the offence committed.

Decision 2
The goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball by touching it with any part of his hand or arms. Possession of the ball includes the goalkeeper deliberately parrying the ball, but does not include the circumstances where, in the opinion of the referee, the ball rebounds accidentally from the goalkeeper, for example after he has made a save.

Decision 3
Subject to the terms of Law 12, a player may pass the ball to his own goalkeeper using his head or chest or knee, etc. If, however, in the opinion of the referee, a player uses a deliberate trick while the ball is in play in order to circumvent the Law, the player is guilty of unsporting behaviour. He is cautioned, shown the yellow card and an indirect free kick is awarded to the opposing team from the place where the infringement occurred. * (see page 3)

A player using a deliberate trick to circumvent the Law while he is taking a free kick is cautioned for unsporting behaviour and shown the yellow card. The free kick is retaken.

In such circumstances, it is irrelevant whether the goalkeeper subsequently touches the ball with his hands or not. The offence is committed
by the player in attempting to circumvent both the letter and the spirit of Law 12.

Decision 4
A tackle from behind, which endangers the safety of an opponent, must be sanctioned as serious foul play.

Decision 5
Any simulating action anywhere on the fi eld, which is intended to deceive the referee, must be sanctioned as unsporting behaviour.

Decision 6
A player who removes his jersey when celebrating a goal must be cautioned for unsporting behaviour.

Wrong. It's saying that all tackles from behind are red cards because they endager the opponent by their very nature. For Christ's sake, I have quotes from FIFA proving that:
Blatter told referees that all tackles from behind should receive red cards.

``It's impossible for the referee to see if a tackle is dangerous or not because all tackles from behind put in danger the physical integrity of the opponent,''

presidence already made fun of you for pretending to be too stupid to know that refs miss calls. Here's a story from SI detailing how the NBA acknowledged that Brent Barry was fouled even though it wasn't called. Stop lying and pretending to be stupid just because you're a coward and can't admit that you were proven wrong.

 

You guys should debate this.

 

can you imagine Pug doing that after winning a hand at the table?

ewwwww

 

Scary thought. We should add this one to the rulebook. You know, just to be safe.

 

Throwing that hockey reference in here, Solarte's an instigator.