iPHONE 2.0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At&t is subsidizing the difference in price, so they're charging more on the service side to get their money back.

 

I wouldn't say for that reason. Apple had to up it's game significantly to stay in the business. The other phone producers aren't going to be outdone for long and already there are many more touch screens on the market. Iphone also will have competition within AT&T for sales where as the other producers will be able to compete across carriers. At least not until the major players make the transfer to LTE.

How much wind do you think this will take out of the Iphone sails?

http://www.google-phone.com/google-phone-is-coming-believe-it-or-not-0335.php

 

iPhone 2.0 Upgrade Will Backfire On Apple
Submitted by Mitchell Ashley on Thu, 06/12/2008 - 4:22am.
Keep the iPhone you already have - here's why. I had an interesting "iPhone 3G debate" over drinks this evening with a passionate, but less than thrilled, iPhone user. I'll call him "Don". Don, like every other iPhone owner, was debating whether or not to upgrade to the new iPhone 3G or stick with the iPhone he already had. Don's verdict? Keep the current iPhone. The reason? Freedom of choice of cell phone carriers, and iPhone 2.0 software works fine on his existing iPhone.

What you say? Freedom of choice for which carrier to use with the iPhone? Yes. Don balked at the high cost of ATT's broadband data plan (for the EDGE network) and had opted to unlock his iPhone and use a cheaper (and slower) data plan from T-Mobile. Don purchased his iPhone over the web and immediately unlocked it and got service with T-Mobile rather than the more expensive AT&T service.

So, why not get the iPhone 3G and do the same thing? ATT's requirement that you purchase a 2 year plan from them at the same time you buy an iPhone 3G. Only someone rich enough to throw away a few thousand dollars would get the iPhone 3G + a 2 year ATT plan, unlock it, and then pay another carrier again for what they already paid for at AT&T. That's the behavior ATT and Apple are of course discouraging. AT&T wireless seems to be taking a page right out of Apple's lock-in strategy. To bad, because at least in this one case (and likely many, many others), existing customers are faced with signing up for another two year stint with ATT. Not providing a choice of carriers will continue to torque wanna be iPhone users. But wait, there's more.

Apple's limited hardware improvements and the 2.0 iPhone software upgrade may both be strong deterrents and cause users to stick with their current iPhones. Why?

To begin with, the iPhone 3G only brings three significant hardware benefits: 1) 3G capabilities (faster data downloads, more international networks), 2) built-in GPS, and 3) increased storage capacity. The first two are very valid reasons to go out and get a new iPhone 3G, provided you need those capabilities. The third, more storage, isn't as big an issue yet, at least until downloadable iPhone apps become available and start to gobble up storage capacity. Barring a need for any one or a combination of these three hardware upgrades, there's no significant hardware benefits to the new iPhone 3G. The original iPhone's more that adequate for doing basic email and web page downloads, and running soon to be released iPhone apps through the App Store.

That, along with being able to upgrade to the iPhone 2.0 software, users get the much needed Exchange integration, improvements to Contacts search, Office and iWorks document viewing, remote wipe and other new 2.0 software benefits. So unless you really need one of those hardware benefits, most iPhone users will be just as happy to stay with what they've got. Apple's goal of 10 million iPhones sold this year could be in serious jeopardy unless price reductions, 3G and more storage drive are enough to drive large numbers of iPhone sales.

So unless you get your jollies over giving Apple more of your hard earned money, you might just be better off sticking with your current iPhone.

 

...also Apple hasn't lowered the costs on any Touch IPods

 

I just got a new iReal Doll, Bonnie Franklin model. I'm pleased so far

 

yeah. you shouldn't be able to get the Phone for cheaper than the touch, contract or not.

They generally do ipod regen in September, so I imagine they'll roll down Touch prices then.

 

I have a hard time believing that. Only ones I can find are on ebay and they're all preowned.

Still, I'm waiting for 2.0, when they get all the bugs worked out.

 

Do you have to blow it up?

 

well of course AT&T wanted to find a better way to keep people from unlocking the iphones and going to tmobile or sending them overseas. What's the point of a deal with Apple if they can't even guarantee they would even get accounts attached to the phones. It's not like there was a huge range of networks that an unlocked iphone can be put on anyways. You can't take it over to Verizon either.

 

these days the iPhone 2.0 with 3g and gps and 8GB storage for $199 is so hot, i'll wait