Thinking about safety

I wouldn't mind adding another vet, but there's really nothing great out there. There's no great difference maker available. I'm glad we're not spending too much for a guy who isn't much of an upgrade.

 

True, but our coaches just don't value the position very highly, odds are they put out feelers to some of the better safeties out there and weren't willing to pay what the Vikings and Raiders were for safeties.

 

Because there arent any left who can improve us. Thats the point of this thread. It wasnt...who's left---it was, damn, we let them all go....and now were left with the draft, which is incredibly weak at the position, or Cooper again.

 

Thats the speculation but I don't see where that happens- we've signed guys Wesley, Colclough (SP?) who really aren't all that good and won't provide the same production at corner that either Lucas, Gamble, or Marshall do- its not an equal trade off.

 

Fair enough, and true enough.

It goes back to my original post....you'd think they learned their lesson with that, though. Because early on, we had quite a few problems there. And we will again.

And I think they know....they said last year we were going to improve there, and we got much worse. I dont want us to spend silly money on these guys, but there were a few clear upgrades, who for a reasonable price, we couldve at least pursued.

Im sick of waiting until week 8 to get shit going, and sick of not being able to play the kinds of defenses we want to play because were having to fucking hide our center-fielders....

 

i agree with you. we had a chance at some guys and did nothing at the position. that part of it does bother me. we should always look to improve at every position.
my guess is the front office looked at the guys that were available and decided they would want/get more money than we were willing to give them.
either that or they didn't see it as big a need as we do.
so now here we are discussing safety as a need again...

 

Draft didn't fall the way they wanted it- Titans took Griffin and Pats took Meriweather-Who was rumored to be our guy, glad we got Beason though- then all the later rounds safeties were a tremendous reach.

 

FWIW, most of us wanted a safety in the 1st; I think we're much better with Beason. The thing is, we didn't need an elite MLB - I'd have rather had a situational guy in theory, like David Harris who I thought had a lot of potential (and had a ton of tackles in under 16 games) that would come off the field, and have special players on the outside.

But you can't replace what he brings. I don't see a special player like that, equitably, being "special" in the middle zone.

I know nobody's questioning that, but to that end, I don't know if a Merriwether in this scheme is necessary. I don't think it's just valuation from the staff - I'm sure they value very highly what Chris Harris brings to SS that we hadn't had at SS in years. But he's a roleplayer, he's not a star.

I want to get that guy in at FS, too, but it's about waiting now. We'll jerk Cooper around for a few weeks, sign him before the draft, and grab a guy in the top 150 after we've strengthened the lines, which could be all four picks starting off.

 

We both have plenty to add to this thread. Just let discussions happen.

 

I really don't see it.
Wesley isn't a guy you'd put at nickel unless you needed to do so. Colclough is fodder, contract or not. I actually wouldn't mind seeing what Wilson has at CB, since he's not picking up S, but we're so reliant on that type player as our 4th guy.