Can You Be Gay and a Christian ? ? ?

Well also 'according to the Bible', you people have no right judging who can and can't be a Christian. It's not your place or any of your business.

But 'Christians' tend to overlook those verses.

 

Wrong yet again. The Bible says that only God makes judgments about who is forgiven and who goes to heaven, but it absolutely does not say anywhere that Christians should be quiet and never condemn anyone else's sinning behavior.

Look, it obviously bothers you that Christianity expressly condemns your lifestyle, but you have to deal with that. Expecting Christianity to change just to accommodate you is silly. If it bothers you that Christianity doesn't accept the way you are, then just don't accept Christianity. You can each go your separate ways.

 

Im not judging! And if Im not mistaken that verse says for you to judge yourself so that you wont be judged by all.

The Bible is clear on who can be come a Christian - anyone (Whosoever Will). However, there are stipulations on how to become one. Faith, Repentance (turning away from sin, picking up your cross, and following Christ - which means to stop being a homosexual), and Rebirth of the soul by confessing Christ as Lord and Saviour.

Im not saying you cant be one, but in order to be one - you have to repent. And without repentence, there is no salvation.

 

You dodged my question on do you consider yourself Christ-like.

Repentance is required for salvation? Nowhere in the gospels does it say the thief on the cross repented, only that he acknowledged Christ by asking him to remember him. Yet Jesus promised him he'd be in paradise that night. When you see him, you might want to let him know he didn't do it in the correct steps.

 

Actually it does seem to be implied given his words about Christ's divinity and his rebuke of the fellow prisoner.

 

By your definition, yes I consider to be Christ-like. But what is the purpose of attaining salvation if there is no repentence?

 

I never defined Christ-like, I defined being a Christian. Salvation is being made right with God.

What is the purpose of attaining salvation? Did you even think about that question before you wrote it?

 

"Don't be gay! Don't be gay!"


yeah, that worked.



Do you HONESTLY think people choose to be gay?


Explain being left-handed. It's not genetic. It's not a choice. They just are. Why do you find it so impossible it's the same way with sexual orientation. Could homosexuals have a purpose in this world that doesn't include breeding? ... natures own birth control plan??

"The Bible says... The Bible says... the Bible says..... " I get so f*cking sick of hearing that. The Bible was written by MAN! NOT GOD!

I strongly believe that we each have a different road to go down in this life. My journey is much different from yours. Your journey is living in small town America and being part of the norm- what you were expected to be. I'm sure you fight battles I don't have to worry about... child rearing, marriage etc. But try to remember that everyones road is different.

Nobody WANTS to be gay. You just are. And you deal with it, overlook intolerance and play the hand of cards that you have been dealt with as much grace and dignity as you can muster.

 

When we talk about spending an eternity in heaven or hell, you'll excuse me if I want something more than implied. I'll be comfortable believing it was his final statement proclaiming Jesus' innocence and him being the Christ that saved him.

The first thief responded in doubt, the second in faith and it was the faith that saved him.

 

I'm going to close with one final argument. We've all heard the story of Sodom and Gomorrah and how evil and vile it was and God destroyed it. We've all heard the fire and brimstone preachers preach about it. What they usually leave out is the intercession of Abraham on behalf of the city. Abraham intercedes for that wretched hive of scum and villianry and finally God agrees to not destroy the whole city if he can find but 10 righteous men.

If God would save the city but for 10 righteous men, how can he not save a homosexual for the righteousness of his only begotten Son who intercedes on our behalf?

I'm nor arguing for or against homosexuality being a sin or if anything is a sin or not. I am arguing about the power of the Gospel for men to be redeemed to God by the blood and resurrection of Jesus.