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Pre-season pick way off on NCSU hoops

Discussion in 'Charlotte Hornets' started by EastOfRaleigh, Feb 14, 2008.

  1. EastOfRaleigh

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    NC State was picked to finish 3rd in the ACC. Looks like this is going to be missed by a good bit.

    We have witnessed the way this team has played. Don't you feel that pre-season prediction was ill-advised? Way too much stock was placed on inexperienced point guard play. I know they lost Degand early to injury, but he was not an outstanding point as well.

    The team just doesn't seem to be getting any better as the season goes on.
     
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    If they could get a good PG they'd be an NCAA tourney team.
     
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    nothing coming in next year either. Hickson is a beast, too bad he's another 1 and done though.
     
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    Articles are generally saying their defense was shitty last night. Their half-court was equally as bad. Nobody moves when the ball goes low. I just can't figure out how everyone sees it except the coaching staff.
     
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    maybe. While I agree that by far is their biggest team need, something just isn't right with team chemistry this year. As a Tar Heel fan I'll straight up admit I though Brandon Cosner was one hell of a player, but he showed up outta shape and lethargic.
     
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    It is most definitely the coach. Not that he's a bad coach or a bad recruiter, I just think his style of offense doesn't suit the personnel. He needs Mike Martz.
     
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    Franchise Turn it Blue

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    State will end up beating UNC Wednesday and things will calm down for the rest of the year for them. Especially if the injury report stays as is.

    Tyler Hansborough, didn't practice game time decision (big toe infected)
    Marcus Ginyard, turf toe, sprained ankle, game time decision
    Bobby Frasor, ACL, done for season
    Danny Green, didn't practice, game time decision, FLU
    Deon Thompson, didn't practice, game time decision, hyper extended and strained knee ligament
    Quenton Thomas, didn't practice, game time decision, severe back spasms.
    Ty Lawson, OUT, sprained ankle
     
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    You must be a State Fan because you are wishing for a miracle. Are you the trainer for the Tarheels? You already have the injury report out. I think your full of shit.
     
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    biggest Wolfpack fan in the world.

    http://northcarolina.scout.com/2/729405.html

    If you have ever dreamed of walking on to the UNC men’s basketball team, now may be your best chance at piquing the coaching staff’s interest for a try-out. Amidst a downward spiral of injuries that has become borderline comical, Williams spent most of his time at Friday’s press conference updating the media on the health status of his squad.
    "I’ve never seen anything like it, and I’ve never been involved in anything like it," a befuddled Williams said.

    Sophomore point guard Ty Lawson will not play on Saturday for the fourth straight game since spraining his left ankle in the early minutes of the Feb. 3 game at Florida State, and is not expected to play against N.C. State next Wednesday. Deon Thompson fought through the pain of a hyper-extended left knee in Tuesday’s win at Virginia, but did not practice on Thursday and Williams indicated that if the game was on Friday, the sophomore forward would not play.

    Those two losses would cripple most programs, but the injury list is not finished quite yet – we still have the other three starters and one of the country’s top sixth-men to fill you in on.

    Junior forward Tyler Hansbrough (infected toe), junior guard Marcus Ginyard (sprained right ankle, turf toe on left foot) and senior point guard Quentin Thomas (back spasms) are expected to play against Virginia Tech, but top reserve Danny Green is not expected to practice on Friday due to flu complications. And while you’re taking notes, don’t forget to include that Bobby Frasor (ACL surgery) is already out for the season.

    If that’s too long of a list to remember, let’s look at it another way. Here are the scholarship players that are completely healthy and ready to take the court this weekend – sophomore guard Wayne Ellington (16.5 points per game), sophomore forward Alex Stepheson (3.7 ppg in 14.6 mpg), red-shirt freshman William Graves (1.7 ppg in 4.5 mpg) and junior forward Michael Copeland (1.3 ppg in 3.9 mpg).

    But the UNC coaching staff is not quite ready to throw in the towel and change the up-tempo style of play that has become synonymous with Tar Heel basketball, especially on the defensive end of the court. With so many kids playing injured, adjusting from Williams’ patented man-to-man to a zone would seem to be a logical move, protecting the players from defensive breakdowns related to their health issues.

    But while that idea is good in theory, it does not mean that it will translate well onto the floor.

    “At one point [against Virginia], I stood up to call a zone, and didn’t because we had a guy in the game that hadn’t ever played in that position,” Williams said. “If you believe the way that you play is the best for long-term success, and you teach and practice that every day, then that’s what we do.”

    But other adjustments, specifically when dealing with the roster, will have to be made in short order.

    “One thing that will change is that Will Graves and Michael Copeland better get their butt in gear,” Williams said. “And the way I phrased it right there is almost the way I’m going to phrase it to them.”

    There has been plenty of debate over the past several weeks about how detrimental these injuries have been to the 2007-08 edition of the Tar Heels. Yes, they have gutted out back-to-back victories with seemingly everybody suffering from some type of health concern. Legends are developing with each passing game, whether it be Hansbrough taking time out of practice before the Clemson game last Sunday to go throw up or Ginyard playing on two bad wheels in leading his teammates to victory over Virginia.

    But at what point does the toll become too much on these young men? Thompson summed up the injury situation as well as anyone could after the Virginia game saying, “Everybody just keeps getting hurt, so I just tried to push through it, because we’d have been really slim if I had stayed out the whole game.”

    That attitude is one of pure toughness and determination, but it can also prove to be a dangerous approach – a player opening himself up for greater risk can never be seen as a good thing.

    Williams is undoubtedly proud of his battered team’s effort the last two contests, but even he is ready for a return to normalcy.

    “They have impressed me with their toughness, [and] they’ve impressed me with their willpower in making plays at crunch time and finding
     
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    This part is completely accurate. :couch:
     

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