Can You Be Gay and a Christian ? ? ?

Fortunately, that's between God and the homosexual, and not us.

 

Classic example of the attitude that turned me away in the first place. Mark said "by condemning homosexuals," & you've re-worded it to equate the person with a specific behavior. Even a pagan like myself recognizes "ALL have sinned & fallen short of the glory of God." What Mark (& I'm sure many others) would like to know, is why pick on THIS particular sin? Is it worse than murder? than hate? than lying or cheating or stealing? In & of itself, I mean.

 

It's not a mystery. It's called wedge politics in combination with appealing to a sense of victimhood.

Case in point - The large segment of strawmen that are clamoring for the church to change it's ways.

 

Since the only church I'm actually member of not only allows but encourages membership of homosexuals, I don't have crap to do with any other sect, denomination, or faith's policies. Nor do I care, too.

I do know that the issues within denominations are being stirred up, not by those outside the church, but within. Maybe those churches should add "liberals" to their banned list.

 

Your problem would be in suggesting that all homosexuals are born that way, because that's undeniably false. Some people obviously choose to be gay. How many and why is open for debate, though.

Constancy, for one thing. If you accept the idea that it's ok to radically redefine anything in the Bible just because certain segments of modern society disagree with it, then you undermine the whole thing. As for why homosexuality was banned in the first place, that's probably because homosexual behavior has traditionally been associated with sexual promiscuity and a breakdown of the family unit.

That doesn't mean that you turn a blind eye to the sin or stop condemning it. If you're accepting of sin, then why are you going to church at all? You wouldn't expect a congregation to tacitly approve of unrepentant adultery, but some expect them to accept homosexuality because the media tells them that the Bible is outdated for thinking that it's wrong.

I don't see why you're putting all this effort into excusing one type of sin.

Huh? You probably ought to try reading my posts before commenting. I'm saying that churches shouldn't be pressured to change through political correctness. The Bible is the Bible. Either you accept or you don't, but you don't get to rewrite it.

 

Why not?

 

Do you think that the pressure on churches is internal or strictly external?

 

External in origin, certainly. Some congregational "progressives" try to change things from within because they've been brainwashed to believe that the Bible is outdated. I doubt there are that many who just came to their own conclusion that homosexuality should no longer be considered a sin.

 

I understand. It's really that simple.