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LCD vs. Plasma

Discussion in 'Technology Forum' started by WilliamJ, Jan 1, 2008.

  1. Hard Harry

    Hard Harry Sometimes Functional INTP

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    No I don't. I own an LCD. Tell me buddy, in that picture, where are the artifacts you keep assuring me I have? Where's the terrible picture from the viewing angle? Where is the shitty upscaling? Where is the backlight washout that I must have since I own an "inferior technology"?

    I chose that picture carefully, for the angle and the close up, so you know, you could actually point out all those things. Funny, i don't see any of them.

    I said it before and you completely fucking ignored it: you don't buy plasma or LCD because one is "inferior". you buy it based on personal preference. If you'd stop being an ass and just realize that you just like plasma better, without bashing LCD owners, you wouldn't get so much flack from me.
     
  2. Superfluous_Nut

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    i wouldn't rely on manufacturer specs for things like that. was does response time actually measure? yes, i know, the amount of time to twist an lcd crystal. but from what state to what state? what is the standard here? any number consumers use compare products will be massaged by the manufacturers to make it sound great. when did a megabyte suddenly become 1,000,000 bytes? it was always 2^20th until marketing forces decided that made the numbers look less impressive. oh, and that's "unformatted" capacity. ya know? response time is no different.

    didn't say 768 was better, said it wasn't losing any resolution when showing 720p. sure, if you put a nice 1080p next to a crap plasma the plasma will look like crap. but two nice tvs should handle the scaling just fine so the only other issue is response time which is lcd's weak point.


    dude. you just got thru telling me that your cable company doesn't provide 720p so excuse me if i don't totally trust your side-by-side comparisons here. you're talking up the in-set scaler and have been using the cable box scaler this whole time. if you take a 720p signal, convert it to 1080i (in a mass-market cable box) and then send it to a plasma to convert it back to 720p, yeah, i think it might suffer a bit.
     
  3. LarryD

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    lcd is for shit. i can't believe there are morons out there who still buy that crap.

    :4:

    i just wanted to play.

    anyway, did you see where i got to watch the final cut of bladerunner on the HD DVD on my friend's new tv? i think it was a 47" somethingorother. it was 1080p, though. we watched the hd-dvd through his xbox.

    really cool that you can call up the dvd menu WHILE watching the movie.

    but the reworked bladerunner looked PHENOMENAL!!!!!!! so much more detail than the original. the scenes where they are flying with the exteriors of the city or tyrell corp. have to be seen to be believed. this was made in the early 80s for gosh sake.
     
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    Yeah I'm going to pick up Blade Runner as soon as I see a good deal on it, it's supposed to look fantastic.

    And the interactive menu really is a great feature, very handy. I like how most/all blu/hd-dvd movies play as soon as you put them in as well.
     
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    You're the one who said you had artifacts. Since we both have TWC and I don't have any artifacts, I assumed it was your TV. It turns out you didn't have your cable box set up correctly. My bad.

    Carry on, and enjoy your better picture. Cheers.


    edit: To think a static picture of a 1080p LCD would have artifacts is laughable. Even the shittiest LCD you could find would be crystal clear in a picture. Unless you were watching an upscaled dvd in a crappy machine or some hd mangled and converted several times.
     
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    On topic, I helped my dad set up his 58 inch 1080p Panasonic Plasma tonight, looked amazing. I have to say though, his satellite signal didn't look quite as good as my TWC signal. I couldn't quite see the blades of grass on FOX like I could at home. As my hd-dvd's looked a lot better (the only true 1080p source out there along with Blu Ray) I have to chalk it up to his Directv vs my TWC.

    Too bad, he gets a TON more HD channels than I do, but the quality is still a little better on cable. It does look a lot better than it used to before they upgraded their HD service, but it's still not quite up to cable quality, imo.
     
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    btw you should see 2001. It's a 40 year old movie, it was like looking back in time. Just amazing. I love hi def movies, it really makes a BIG difference over upscaled dvds.
     
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    You're the one bashing others based on their preference, I'm just bashing you because you came in here waving your dick and you've been proven wrong several times already. And not just by me.
     
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    along those lines...

    Swanni's 2008 Predictions: DIRECTV HD Vs. Cable HD
    The high-def guru makes his third prediction.
    By Allison Moore
    HD Diva

    Washington, D.C. (December 6, 2007) -- Here is the text summary of Swanni's third prediction for 2008:

    DIRECTV will indeed steal away a significant number of high-def customers from cable next year. The reason: For the past 18-24 months, cable has been emphasizing the 'Triple Play' in its advertising -- voice, Internet and video service. The cable ops have been afraid that the telcos Triple Play service would take away their best customers. But they have talked about Triple Play so much, people have almost forgotten about their TV lineup.

    Meanwhile, DIRECTV has been investing its time and money expanding its high-def lineup. It now has more than 80 HD channels while most cable operators are stuck at 30. Plus, DIRECTV has invested heavily in marketing campaigns to promote that fact.

    Consequently, when people think about Triple Play, they will think about cable or the telephone company. When they think about high-def, they will think about DIRECTV. So next year, many high-def owners will make the switch to DIRECTV.
     
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    You're a smart boy, figure it out. It's still very relevant information to your situation.






    I am glad you bought a good LCD panel that doesn't have to put a lot of post processing effects onto your screen which lags the fuck out of your games. Superfluous was right, some rhythm games include options so you can adjust your lag, just so someone with a crap LCD panel can still play. Most games don't, which means you have to change the way you play. Anticipate moves and such. You should see someone in a gaming forum when they realize that the 'omg hdtv' doesn't play their games nearly as well as their old crts. It's pretty sad.

    But yeah, LCD has improved in that area, they also have really improved their viewing angles over the years. Just like plasma has improved their 'screen door' effect and their 'clay' looking effects.

    Neither tech is perfect, no doubt about that. I was terrified about burn-in. Even though it's not that much of a problem anymore, it's still something to be concerned about your first 100-200 hours of the tv. I'm way past that point and I'm too old to spend 10 hours playing the same videogame. I never even think about burn-in anymore.
     

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