LCD vs. Plasma

You're stupid and not the type of person at AVS that can help, as justified by your constant spreading of 'knowledge' here. Please stop, you're embarrassing yourself.

http://www.scientificatlanta.com/products/consumers/new_explorer8300HD.htm

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=471859

As for being a fanboy, yeah, I am. Plasma is clearly the better tech in my eyes. My games aren't laggy, my picture is crisp as a winter day, and you sir, don't know what you're talking about. You've got a sweet TV though. Well, it looks good in the pic.

Gotta go, I'm going to watch the Fox football game in 720p. No wonder you're getting artifacts, maybe if your crappy cable box wasn't upscaling your football picture it will look better. Go see.

 

You are both embarrassing yourselves for fighting over this like it's politics.

 

Hey, buy what you want, I couldn't care less. He's the one who wanted to start name calling and telling me what a stupid douchebag I am. I'm the one showing him how stupid he is with facts.

edit: I'll say it again, HHs first post in this thread I agree with 99%, it's very good advice and the thread should have ended there.

I'll also say that with a decent amount of research, you can be confident with either LCD OR Plasma. Both are very competent technologies that each have a few drawbacks.

edit2: By that same token, both techs have tv's that will look like trash depending on what you want to watch on it. Don't just 'buy anything.'

 

It's all subjective anyway. What looks better to one may look worse to another. Just like vaginas.....some like hair, some don't....but for the most part it's all very good and way better than beating off.

That being said........The picture on, ironically the TV I chose, is THE GREATEST PICTURE REPRODUCIBLE BY MAN OR GOD!!!! BECAUSE I AM THE SMARTEST MAN ALIVE!!!!!!

 

those types of games have settings to adjust the game to account for lag, so it might not be that big of a problem.

 

first off, i'm not down on 1080p sets. i realize you're kinda defensive on the subject, but i'm not saying 1080p is bad or anything. what i'm saying is that plasmas at 1280x768 would give you everything you could want from most sporting events. that a 720p signal on those devices plays right up to their strengths and doesn't highlight any limitation (like spacial rez).

now, onto your other point. you're completely 100% ignoring the tv signal when talking about what a 1080p tv does.

if you feed it 1080/60p, i'm sure you get 1080 lines at 60fps. but that isn't being broadcast anywhere. 1080i has half the information as 1080p (and actually a little less because of filtering to avoid thin horizontals). the only way to convert that 1080p is to invent the other half of the information on the fly.

you said yourself your tv interlaces things properly. so let me get this straight. your tv take 1080i and interlaces the first 2 fields together and show them for 1/60th of a second. then what? what is the image displayed on the next 60th of a second?

wtf? why would only a dork want to avoid his cable box playing the role of format converter? especially if they went out and bought a nice tv with top notch internals?

you've got a 1080p tv and you're not even using it. your 720p signals are getting mangled by your cable box and losing information. going form 720p to 1080i isn't exactly a simple process. the straight forward way is to simply scale each 1280x720 frame to be a 1920x1080 frame, then throw out every other scanline (odd scanlines for one field, even scanlines for the other field). converting to 1080p, however, is much, much, much cleaner. you simply scale each frame to 1920x1080. and your done. go adjust your settings and i'd be amazed if you don't see a major improvement.

see look. all this arguing back and forth and you ended up getting a better picture out of it.

 

Amen.

 

Cute, you posted a 4 year old help topic that doesn't work that way anymore since they've upgraded the firmware on the SA 8300HD.

Who's spreading misinformation?

BTW, this article is over a year and a half old, and since then, LCD refresh rates have come down even more. Which TV do they pick as superior in damn near every category?

http://www.flattvpeople.com/tutorials/lcd-vs-plasma.asp

My games, aren't laggy, I'd put my picture up against yours anyday, and here's the best part: I don't have to worry about burn in, and I can actually use my LCDTV as a computer monitor because it supports a resolution that doesn't look like ass at that size.

You sir, are a fanboy spreading disinformation. It's annoying as shit.

 

this is true, ultimately, but knowing the technology helps when you go into a store and see all these tvs next to each other. lcd's would look amazing next to plasmas if they were feeding them 1080i all slow moving discovery channel vistas. on the other hand, plasmas would look great if the signal was 720p fast-paced sports. fast-paced sports at 1080i would suffer on both and 720p vistas wouldn't show off the higher rez of 1080i tv's.

so yeah, it's subjective, but you gotta have some info so you know you're subjecting each tv to conditions it would experience in your home and looking at programming that you expect to be looking at. and i wouldn't trust a mainstream retailer to have things set up properly, either.

i guess this is partially why i don't own an hd set at the moment.

 

And so would LCDs. Most of the Sharp Aquos (popular LCD at the moment) people buy have 4ms response time, which is much more than adequate for 60 fps.

And your idea that 768p TVs scale 720p signals better than 1080p sets just because the resolutions are closer is pure horsecrap. It is entirely dependent on what scaler chip your set uses. You have no assurance you're getting a good one because you bought a 768p TV. That's why i recommend the name brands, because they use good scalers and de-interlacers. And, when it's done right, by these chips, it looks just as good on any TV.

Of course, someone who owned a 1080p set and a 768p set, could tell you that. Like he's doing right now.