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HOLLYWOOD STARLETS Making Babies Before Marriage

Discussion in 'Religion & Spirituality Forum' started by sds70, Dec 21, 2007.

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    Much like life.
     
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    Jesus was born out of wedlock, anyway. The Holy Spirit was not Mary's husband.
     
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    Or not.
     
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    Watch enough "talk shows" to know lots of pregnacies are NOT two committed parents, and when they aren't even sure who the baby daddy is...I think this country is in horrible shape.
     
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    A marriage between a man and a woman has been the best way to raise a baby for thousands of years. The fact that some air head celeb thinks it is not necessary does nothing to change the fact that it is still the best way. It is common sense in 2007 and it was common sense in 207. If you want to say some other way is better then the onus is on you to prove it.
     
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    You got it all wrong. It is a loving relationship between the man and woman that is the best way to raise a baby. The marriage is just a result of that factor.

    If two people that hate each other (yet had a baby together) get married - that does not equate to a healthy/happy home for the child.

    If two people who love each other and have a baby together - it doesn't matter whether they get married or not. The outcome will be the same.

    Marriage is just a byproduct. You're paring things that are seemingly related but are merely a coincidence.
     
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    Only a couple that is in love should be married. Only a married couple should have a kid. Two people who do not love each other should not get married and definitely should not have a kid.

    If you are not willing to get married then you are not committed enough to each other to make having a kid a good idea. Certainly there are exceptions but 99% of the time that is how it works.
     
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    That's incorrect, though a popular opinion that is emblematic of the breakdown in social responsibility when it comes to relationships and child-rearing. The entire point of marriage is that it's supposed to be a bond of commitment. Living together without getting married is just a way of hedging your bets. It's like saying "I'm into this, but leaving open the option to bail whenever I get tired of it."

    While the dramatic increase in divorce has obviously devalued the significance of marriage and its status as a sign of long-term intentions, that's still a legal and cultural acknowledgment of responsibility and association. Hollywood has apparently convinced you that living together isn't inferior to being married, but it is, and it's that inferiority that makes it attractive to people who want to have their cake and eat it too. It is important for a society to have acknowledged bonds that marriage signifies.

    And regarding Hollywood starlets, I do think that this is glamorizing pregnancy and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see a reverse in recently declining rates of teen pregnancy. Oddly enough, the casual attitude towards oral sex was probably more responsible for that than sex-ed, but promiscuity and babies out of wedlock are not something that the media or society in general should be promoting, not because it's "un-Christian" but rather because structured relationships are critical to the health of a society. Those elements are already breaking down, and glorifying the behavior will only serve to accelerate that.


    Also, I didn't know until this thread that Jamie Lynn Spears was pregnant. I get that with her older sister being such a mess, the family felt the need to be pro-active in the media about her pregnancy, but trying to make it acceptable for a 16 year old to give birth is just preposterous. Obviously it happens and always has happened, but trying to make that something other than regrettable is disservice to young women. I'm not saying that people should throw stones at her, but this should be publicized as an example of how even famous young women can face this fate, and how that is a bad thing, rather than it being spun as something positive.
     
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    Why must two people who love each other get married? Because society says so? Please.

    This is an assumption and also your opinion - neither of which are based on any fact or reality.

    Significance to whom? Two people can most definitely have a long term relationship and bond without having to get married.

    Hollywood has nothing to do with my beliefs. And who says it is inferior? You?

    Each one of you have stated your wonderful opinions, but you aren't going to convince me that you MUST get married in order to successfully raise a child. Society has convinced you of this but I disagree.
     

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