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Bobcats aquire terrorist

Discussion in 'Charlotte Hornets' started by Captain, Dec 14, 2007.

  1. DJ_Tet

    DJ_Tet Full Access Member

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    Ugh, that contract is so hideous. A holdover from the overspending from several years back, he'd never sniff that money now. It really sucks, knowing we could have had Milic or Magloire for a fraction of the price, plus just kept Herrmann for depth/replacing Morrison.

    I really think this deal sucks ass for the Bobcats. All Mohammad is going to do is steal minutes we could use on Ryan Hollins or Jamario Davidson. Terrrrrrible /end Walton
     
  2. Superfluous_Nut

    Superfluous_Nut pastor of muppets

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    but you have to recognize that detroit is in a totally different position than charlotte in terms of salary cap and free agent appeal.
     
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    I have taken on guys bigger and much more skilled than you in the past. That is not the point though. You not only do not deserve my respect either, you no longer merit any of my attention. I am going to do the adult thing and simply place you on my ignore list. Have a nice life loser.
     
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    AHAHAHAHAAHAHAH!!!

    Holy shit. +114,367,899,238 for Thelt. :28:
     
  5. Collin

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    Did you suddenly lose the ability to read?

    The victory for the Pistons was in the $20 million they lopped off their payroll by moving Mohammed's contract -- a contract, by the way, categorized by many league executives as unmovable.

    That means other teams viewed the contract as horrendous too.
    Dude, since you've already admitted that you're a smurf-sized blob of Krispy Kreme (we're about the same weight, only I'm about 6 inches taller), how do you expect anyone to buy that? It's not even like I'm the only one to make fun of how stupid you are. Lots of people do it because you are a running joke. You don't know anything about any topic, but comment about everything with completely unmerited confidence. When not annoying, it's hilarious.
     
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    Magloire is sucking ass in New Jersey. Milicic costs more with one less year than Mohamed. And Davidson is bad enough that they were going to send him to the D-League before they brought Nazr in. Hollins is still going to get plenty of time, he's just nowhere near starting level.
     
  7. Superfluous_Nut

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    i agree that 20 mill for 3 years is overpaying for mohammed, but sometimes it takes overpaying to get something you need. the cats have determined they need a physical center. they got one, tho his best days are well behind him.

    but your argument about detroit trying to dump the salary equating to the salary being something every team would want to dump ignores that each team is different and in a different set of circumstances.

    i suspect charlotte's best opportunity to land talent will be via trade or draft. i don't get the sense that many free agents would do anything but use charlotte's cap space to force other teams to pay them more.
     
  8. Collin

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    Stop arguing just because you want to argue. That's all you ever do on here, and it's all you're doing now because you're only bringing up points that have already been addressed. The Bobcats don't need anything this year, because this season is already screwed. What matters is the future, and Mohammad should not be a centerpiece of any team's future. He wasn't good enough to get regular playing time for a Detroit team that could actually afford a defense-only player and who also lacked a traditional center.
    Supposedly executives from multiple teams thought that no one would be dumb enough to trade for Mohammed and that contract. It wasn't just Detroit that thought getting out from under it would be a good thing. You know all that, you're just arguing for the sake of arguing because that has become your life.
    Hermann and Brezec's expiring contracts would have been very useful in trading for someone solid, if such a player became available. That was also listed as a reason that Detroit made this move, to facilitate another one. Meanwhile Mohammed makes the Bobcats less able to trade for anyone worth a crap this season.
    All the more reason to preserve what space is there. While no one wants to pay Rashard Lewis-types a max contract, the fact is that Charlotte will have to overpay to get players in free agency, making it all the more important not to waste cap space on useless players.

    Stop fucking arguing. You are wrong, you know you are wrong, and you don't care that you are wrong. Stop it.
     
  9. Superfluous_Nut

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    so why are YOU arguing? you said youreself you don't really follow the nba that much, so i'm curious what draws you to a discussion here.

    regardless, there's no doubt that mohammed sucks compared to the salary he's pulling down. the question is, what do the bobcats get with him? does it land them a couple more wins? it might. and while you might call this a lost season, i kinda doubt the bobcat ownership/management looks at it that way. they're still trying to attract fans and winning a couple more games or putting their star players in a position to shine might help them fill some seats. so he's definitely an upgrade over brezec and hermann wasn't getting much playing time.

    detroit has jason maxiel as their physical presence, so mohammad wouldn't get much pt for that team.

    yeah, well, i guess there are two dumb gms then since joe dumars was the guy who sign mohammad to the original contract (of course, back then it was longer). it wasn't like they signed the guy and he tanked -- he put up the same kind of numbers he did for san antonio the year before.

    i don't think those expiring contracts would have been enough to land somebody solid. and detroit's salary position is more about the luxury tax than the salary cap. they might be able to add somebody to the vet min later this year and have it only cost them the vet min instead of paying twice that amount. maybe chris webber will get a call in feb. charlotte, of course, isn't in that position.

    in all likelihood, hermann and brezec will be free agents next year and detroit will have some room under the luxury cap.

    useless? he's not useless, he's just overpaid. it seems kind of strange to say that charlotte needs to not overpay for somebody because they need to save their money so they can overpay for somebody else.

    the fact is, sometimes you take on a bad contract cuz that's what it takes to get a piece you feel you need (again, dumars did sign mohammad to this contract originally).

    wait. i thought you had me on ignore. what happened? is that just some excuse you use to run and hide when your arguments fail?
     
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    Magloire is way cheaper.

    Milicic is better with a higher ceiling.


    Davidson is a child.


    None of this stops Muhammad from sucking ass here with a shit contract. No playoffs this year, the lEast is too strong and we pissed away our solid start. We're just treading water with this contract, and the minutes would be much better spent on Hollins/Davidson. We already had a big stiff named Harrington.

    At this point we should have just resigned Voskuhl and tried to get a second rounder for Brezic.
     

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