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Possible backup QBs

Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by Thelt, Dec 14, 2007.

  1. Collin

    Collin soap and water

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    "Much better" is relative, but it was certainly better with Jake and I've said so numerous times. That said, the offense was poor this season even before Delhomme got injured. Throw a more flawed QB into that fire and this is what you get, but people understandably want to pretend that Carr is most or even all of the problem because that gives them more hope about things changing in the future.
    Look, you can keep trying to paint me as biased as revenge for all the times that I demonstrated yours, but it's not going to stick. People have seen me be critical of players I clearly liked and praise players I clearly didn't, because my evaluations have never been and hopefully never will be colored by anything personal. As I've said before, I cheer for the logo, not the individual wearing it. That's why I end up consistently proven correct, because I don't let my emotions cloud my judgment the way that you always have. And while it doesn't matter at all to me what Carr does once he's no longer wearing a Panthers uniform, it's blindingly obvious to me that blaming him for everything is just a way for people to feel unrealistically better about this team. Replacing him won't fix the real problems with the offense any more than dumping Henning did. You accused me of just being biased there too, but I ended up being proven right, while your bias led you to yet again be wrong.
    Sure, and yet he performed much worse statistically. That says some scary things about the state of our offense.
     
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    It is not just that Carr's numbers have sucked and that we have lost most of the games in which he has played it is the way he has looked lost out there. He seems timid and jittery in the pocket. Something happened to him that has ruined him. I do not know if it was getting benched and then cut in Houston or if it happened after he got here but something has made afraid. He has that same deer in the headlights look that Weinkie had last season.
     
  3. Collin

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    Yes, yes, we know. It has been commented on several times before that you know so little about football (or pretty much anything, for that matter), that you judge a quarterback's quality on how he looks. The fact is that Jeff Garcia looks timid and jittery in the pocket too, but he makes good decisions with the ball. Carr didn't. What matters is how they actually perform, not how they look.
     
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    I don't think anyone's said that. I do believe his play was a problem, and eventually Vinny's has become very problematic. Apparently we disagree as to what level quarterback play matters this year, so whatever.

    I don't think there's any real denying that you've been defensive of Carr or Henning.


    ¿o rly?


    Yes. He got worse. This offense isn't why David Carr is awful. He did that himself. I have no idea why you'd be so eager to throw the rest of the team on the bomb for his sake, even despite the defensiveness.
     
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    Trying to play with a compound fracture of a vertebrae maybe? Remember the guy who hurdled over a defender on a scramble? That was before the injury.

    Not that he was great before but there was a marked difference after IMO.
     
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    I wouldn't mind seeing this guy as a Panther learning the QB trade behind Jake for a couple years:

    Joe Flacco: Delaware (He impressed me the two playoff games I saw)
     

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    It would be easy to make up a nickname to call him if he doesn't make it big.
     
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    McFly41 Work Hard...PLAY HARDER!

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    For the record, John Fox will not take the time to develop a QB...never has and now he doesn't have time too.

    Although, I agree Joey is an impressive talent.
     
  9. Collin

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    I don't give a flying shit about David Carr, although you need to pretend otherwise so you don't have to feel inferior about your own proven biases. The reason I've been harping on this point over and over again is so that idiots like Thelt don't just assume that the Panthers will be fine if Jake comes back healthy. That's what I care about, dumbass, the '08 team (which Carr probably won't be on) and how they perform.


    As for Joe Flacco, I didn't see anything particularly impressive about him.
     

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