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The FBS-BCS National Championship Tournament

Discussion in 'College Football Forum' started by The Warden, Dec 2, 2007.

  1. The Warden

    The Warden Full Access Member

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    There were some ideas on how to do this...But ive been working on this for a few years and believe I have something a little more concrete. However, deciding who is in and who is not will be forever debated. LRBaseball put 12 teams in and did not factor in the other mid-major conference champions. I believe if you win your conference, you deserve an automatic bid into the national tournament regardless of how good or bad you are.

    First off....We have an individual on this forum that has an opinion that a playoff should not happen. That's fine. However, if you (or anyone) cant post without insults or other degrading comments....THEN DONT POST. This is for the people who want the tournament and to have some fun.


    Seedings
    The seedings for this tournament come from the Final BCS Top 25. Should a team not be ranked in the Final BCS Top 25, for the sake of time they will be seeded by best schedule for the regular season minus the conference championship game (if applicable). Should Notre Dame had be ranked in the top 8 in the normal procedure, they would have been included. But, since they didnt - never mind!


    Venues

    Locations for games are as follows:

    Round of 16: Nearest Bowl site of the higher seed

    Quarterfinals (In Order): Fiesta, Cotton, Gator, Peach

    Semifinals (In Order): Orange, Rose

    National Championship Finals: Sugar

    In the quarters, the BCS bowl comes first. Since the Fiesta Bowl was last year's national championship game, it goes back to the back and and works its way back up. So with this format that it goes back to the quarterfinals. The highest seed goes to the Fiesta Bowl, second highest to the Cotton Bowl and down the line. Semifinals the same way with the Orange Bowl (next year's title game) to the highest seed, then Rose. Semifinal winners play for the national championship in the Sugar Bowl.


    Payouts

    Ive tried to come up with some sort of payout formula, but each participant should only make the maximum of $17 million, which is the max payout for a current BCS bowl game.

    The best I've come up is this:

    Round of 16: Loser - $250,000 / Winner - $500,000

    Quarterfinals: Loser - $750,000 / Winner - $1,500,000

    Semifinals: Loser - $2,500,000 / Winner -$5,000,000

    National Championship Final: Loser - $7,500,000 / Champion - $10,000,000

    Maxiumum Total: $17,000,000


    Brackets


    (#): Seeds

    Conference Champions (Automatic Bids)
    Atlantic Coast: Virginia Tech (3)
    Big East: West Virginia* (9)
    Big Ten: Ohio State (1)
    Big XII: Oklahoma (4)
    Conference USA: Central Florida (14)
    Mid-American: Central Michigan (15)
    Mountain West: Brigham Young (13)
    Pac-10: Southern California (7)
    SEC: Louisiana State (2)
    Sun Belt: Florida Atlantic**(16)
    WAC: Hawaii (10)

    *= Tied for Big East championship, won head-to-head meeting with UConn
    **= Tied for Sun Belt championship, won head-to-head meeting with Troy

    At-Large Bids
    Georgia (5)
    Missouri (6)
    Kansas (8)
    Arizona State (11)
    Florida (12)


    ***Games simulated with winners in BOLD***

    Round of 16

    Motor City Bowl
    Detroit, Michigan
    (16) Florida Atlantic
    (1) Ohio State

    Sun Bowl
    El Paso, Texas
    (9) West Virginia
    (8) Kansas

    Music City Bowl
    Nashville, Tennessee
    (12) Florida
    (5) Georgia

    Armed Forces Bowl
    Fort Worth, Texas
    (13) BYU
    (4) Oklahoma

    Texas Bowl
    Houston, Texas
    (11) Arizona State
    (6) Missouri

    Meineke Car Care Bowl
    Charlotte, North Carolina
    (14) Central Florida
    (3) Virginia Tech

    Holiday Bowl
    San Diego, California
    (10) Hawaii
    (7) Southern California

    Independence Bowl
    Shreveport, Louisiana
    (15) Central Michigan
    (2) Louisiana State


    Quarterfinals

    Fiesta Bowl
    Glendale, Arizona
    (9) West Virginia
    (1) Ohio State

    Peach Bowl
    Atlanta, Georgia
    (12) Florida
    (4) Oklahoma

    Gator Bowl
    Jacksonville, Florida
    (6) Missouri
    (3) Virginia Tech

    Cotton Bowl
    Dallas, Texas
    (7) Southern California
    (2) Louisiana State


    Semifinals

    Orange Bowl
    Miami, Florida
    (12) Florida
    (1) Ohio State

    Rose Bowl
    Pasadena, California
    (3) Virginia Tech
    (2) Louisiana State


    National Championship Game

    Sugar Bowl
    New Orleans, Louisiana
    (2) Louisiana State
    (1) Ohio State


    Playing Dates

    The tournament could start play following the conference championship games and finishing up on first weekend in January. Four weeks of play either way you slice it. Or give the teams a week off in between the conference championship games and the first round games. It would just put the finals on the second weekend in January.

    I think this could work with teams playing on neutral sites and putting the best teams out there. Just my $.02 worth.
     
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  2. Collin

    Collin soap and water

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    I applaud the thought you put into this. My criticisms are that we've already established the fact that playoffs are a worse way of crowning the "best team" than the BCS model, and that including four rounds makes it even less likely that the "best team" will make it through while also affecting the length of the regular season. Initially I also disagreed that the tiny conferences should get automatic bids, but if you were forced to take 16 teams then that becomes more palatable, and I guess you could see it as a means of giving the highest ranked team a bye of sorts.
     
  3. McFly41

    McFly41 Work Hard...PLAY HARDER!

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    11 Team format with #1 getting a bye

    1. Ohio State
    2. LSU
    3. Virginia Tech
    4. Oklahoma
    5. Georgia
    6. Missouri
    7. USC
    8. Kansas
    9. West Virginia
    10. Hawaii
    11. Arizona State

    Round 1 (Higher Seed is home team)
    LSU* vs. ASU
    Va Tech* vs. Hawaii
    OU* Vs. WV
    Georgia* Vs. Kansas
    Mizzou vs. USC*

    Quarter Final(Played on nutural site, existing bowls)
    OSU vs. USC*
    LSU vs. Georgia*
    Va Tech vs. OU*

    Semi Final (Highest Remaining seed gets a bye)(Played on nutural site, existing bowls)
    Georgia* vs USC

    Final: OU vs. Georgia

    Any more games than that would be too many, IMO. A 8 team format would actually be better.
     
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    What about the other teams? Those mid-major conference champions deserve a shot to play for the national championship, regardless on how good or bad they are and if they're ranked or not.

    And if you're gonna be giving byes, give them in the first round for seeds 1-5. Your system is doesnt make alot of sense at face value.
     
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    That's part of the slipperly slope that folks who don't want a playoff don't want. That it will become a large playoff that devalues the regular season and playing a competitive schedule.

    I don't really want to see Troy vs USC.
     
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    Ok....I dont either, but you have to give Troy (Actually, Florida Atlantic won the Sun Belt, not Troy), Florida Atlantic, Central Florida, Central Michigan and any mid-major who wins their conference a chance. While they dont have a chance in hell to win a first-round matchup, they still should have a chance to try.

    Since this is all about the Super Six Conferences (ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Big XII, Pac-10, SEC), maybe the NCAA should drop the lower conferences into FCS or make a new division for these mid-majors so they can compete for a national championship. I think its relatively stupid for a team to play 12-13 games and have nothing to look fowards to other than winning their conference's meaningless championship.
     
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    No we haven't
     
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    Freakshow Fuck you guys.

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    Those "other conferences" should become the real IAA. Florida Atlantic would get their doors blown off by Ole Miss.
     
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    You have to draw the line somewhere, and this isnt basketball, Troy would get slaughtered anyway. I'm more interested in just seeing the 8 best teams out there duke it out...
     
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    he established that for you, while you werent looking, get with it, and could you inform anyone else who isnt clear, that colin changed it

    Colin > Chuck Norris
     

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