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Why do you want to go to heaven?

Discussion in 'Religion & Spirituality Forum' started by hasbeen99, Aug 8, 2007.

  1. slydevl

    slydevl Asshole for the People!

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    I have asked you 6 times in this thread to address my comments about the Laws of Thermodynamics. You are a coward. If it is possible to scurry off while remaining here you have done it you fool.

    But by all means, continue your pathetic LOOK LOOK campaign.
     
  2. vpkozel

    vpkozel Professional Calvinballer

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    Where is the evidence of life being created simply from a combination of environmental factors.

    Again, you are apparently not understanding that a belief in God means that you do not believe in evolution. In fact, I think that they are wholly consistent witheach other - and in fact would dovetail very nicely with God's gift of free will to man.

    When one of those transistions to a water buffalo, give me a call.

    That's great. Wholly immaterial, but umm, great.

    I read those and they have redefined transitional species as ones with gradula evolutionalary adaptations - which is not what it is. So, in essence, they have changed the definition in order to make their results be what they want it to be.
     
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    slydevl Asshole for the People!

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    Without perception there is no reality...only possibility.

    There had to have been an initial perciever or reality never would have existed long enough for life to evolve.
     
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    Stupid! :doh:

    Do you perceive my 2nd cousin in Louisiana? Does she exist now that I mentioned her to you?
     
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    Life was created in God's own image, it says so in my book; meatballs and noodly appendages.

    On a philosophical level, there is no free will, only minor adjustments toward self-actualization, in whatever form that takes for you. You can't resist it. But I am thankful Spaghedeity has granted me the life force to make those minor adjustments.

    Calling dumbass, VP. We have a water buffalo sighting! And many other forms of buffalo as well! Spaghedeity has blessed us with a virtual cornucopia of bovinity in this marvelous world, all descended from lower forms!

    Please show evidence of the peer-reviewed scientist's errors, Christian.
     
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    slydevl Asshole for the People!

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    She didn't to me but now she does....someone has to percieve her for her to exist.

    Did you read any of the articles about parallel dimensions that were out in the past week or so?

    I mean, those were scientists putting forth that theory.

    You my friend are apparently the stupid one.
     
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    vpkozel Professional Calvinballer

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    Where have I proposed using the Bible as a science book?

    Idisagree. There is most definitely free will.

    So the fact that we have water buffalos today proves your theory how?

    Please show me the peer reviewed articles of the missing links in evolution. There are currently all kinds of holes and assumptions in evolution.
     
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    Start a philosophy thread on the subject.

    Where did I say prove? Are you dense? :bonk:

    Go to any GOP convention or Drudge (who is gay BTW) or The Weekly Standard and you will find plenty of evidence of missing links.

    Links to support your assertion?

    Also, the fallacious argument of "holes" in a theory do not detract from the veracity of it's components. There are "holes" in the encompassing theory of gravity around super-dense objects as well other significant issues. If "holes" in a theory mattered, would we really be discussing your theory of God's existence? Sure we would, because you NEED God emotionally.

    You have yet to provide even the slightest bit of evidence for your assertion of God's existence. How's that for a hole?
     
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    I'm not Kansas.

    Don't need to, but thanks.

    Ok, fine. How does the existance of a water buffalo act as evidence to your theory?

    If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball.

    If there were no holes, it would not need to be a theory, it would be a fact.

    There are holes in both, you just don't mind filling them in with a bunch of guesses or assumptions that have no proof, but want to limit someone else from doing the exact same thing.

    I am not trying to prove the existance of God. Although, as it is with gravity, there may well be such a proof, but we do not currently have the ability to measure it or explain it. That, however, is immaterial.
     
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    What is "fair"? Is it fair to blame God for someone being born to parents who chose to believe in something else? Would you blame God for a newborn baby's impoverished, drug-addicted parents?

    If I'm understanding you correctly, it sounds like you're claiming if God was fair, everyone would get to start with a clean slate, and all the foreknowledge necessary to make a well-informed decision prior even to birth through the soul. I wish that were the case! It would've gained me a lot of years of knowing God and spared me a lot of years of misery leading up to my own decision to answer my own question of faith. And that's just me talking, that's not even considering what countless others have endured throughout history!

    The Bible teaches that God did start out with a perfect world, in which He interacted face-to-face with mankind with no suffering or hardship of any kind. It was free will at the earliest point of history that changed that dynamic forever. God has chosen not to hit the 'reset' button for every generation, but instead, let humanity learn from each other by enduring the consequences of the mistakes of others. Like I said before, I wish that wasn't the way things are, but I don't get to make that call. All we can do (and all God is asking of us) is make the best of what we are given, and live by the choices we make.
     

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