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Why do you want to go to heaven?

Discussion in 'Religion & Spirituality Forum' started by hasbeen99, Aug 8, 2007.

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    WTF are you talking about? You can add any reason for the hypothetical plane's deviation, from electrical storms to drunken pilots, but I guarantee you the way to determine it is through evidence, not praying on your knees.

    Listen dude, you are seriously boring me. Go preach to someone else. Regardless of your "beliefs", the half-life of Carbon-14 is predictable and reproduceable, unlike your "miracles."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiocarbon_dating

    The dating technique, along with soil stratification, based on sedimentation patterns THAT ARE REPRODUCEABLE AND PEER-REVIEWED, give logical meaning to the fossilized animal remains we consistently find in soil around the world. This same step-by-step methodology gives rise to the basic understanding of physical processes which in turn allow us to mass-produce Bibles and give blowhards a platform, based in silicon and binary math, to spout their idiocy to the world by typing on simple keyboards, and to then have it transmitted using light-based signaling methods derived from experimentation, evidence, and review.

    Just a couple of generations ago, your kind would have called it magic or miraculous. You are on the wrong side of history.
     
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    lol........to keep saying you are so "bored"......you sure find a lot of time to keep trying to convince yourself don't you? ha. dude? preach?....wonder why you keep finding yourself in a spirituallity forum and then are offended at what blows your simpleton life beliefs out of the water.......
     
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    Tharan000,
    just for kicks lets say you are right in everything you believe. then when we die we will just fade to black, float as cosmic dust, or whatever you want to fill in the blank with. On the flip side, say I'm right, absent from the body and in the presence of the Lord, in an instant. Eternity is a long time to burn my friend. Try bouncing that off both of your brain cells for a while.....ha.
     
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    Galethog Arrogant SumBitch

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    It's not just two choices. There are other religions out there.:12:
     
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    Not only are you an idiot but you are a lazy one.

    What a joke you are.

    Leave the religious debate to the people who can actually hold an intelligent conversation.

    You can not.
     
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    slydevl Asshole for the People!

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    The have been huge problems found with Carbon-14 dating. It is based on faulty assumptions that the amount of Carbon-14 in the atmosphere is constant.

    It is only accurate within a couple of thousand years (ie. 5000 years or younger) because the amount of Carbon-14 then is roughly the same as now.

    Do any google search on Carbon dating problems.

    I mean they have carbon dated allosauraus bones to 6000 years old. You still want to hang you hat on that?
     
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    None of that is inconsistent with the idea that God created life.
     
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    I did a Google search and I found the webpages where you got this information, none of which are sourced or peer reviewed. In fact, the first Google link is a ministry.

    The premise that it is based on faulty assumptions that Carbon-14 in the atmosphere is constant is a fundamental misunderstanding of how the Carbon-14 dating system operates. Carbon-14, and ALL other complex molecules are constantly in a state of renewal and decay. Carbon-14 does not date back "millions" of years as one of the websites on the Google search attempted to debunk (strawman).

    Sly, learn what you are talking about before you bloviate. Really. You look stupid. The half-life of Carbon-14 is about 6000 years. read the Wikipedia source I linked.

    What is really most telling here, is the fact you "believers" disregard any standard of review or evidentiary assumption when its fits your agenda. You are strict "reviewists" though when it comes to media reports concerning things like global warming or instances of Republican corruption or malfeasance. But in this case, for example, you are easily pointing to non-peer reviewed and non-sourced sources for your fallacious POV.

    No, I would rather hang my hat on a book written by men that were barely literate in the modern sense over 2000 years ago and having gone through multiple revisions by individuals with obvious political agendas. That is your source. And you believe it because you are too weak to do otherwise. It comforts you and gives meaning to your life, regardless of its actual historical veracity.

    And even if there is an instance of what is considered allosaurus bones to be dated inaccurately, it is an outlier. And outliers are dealt with on a regular basis for what they are, ...outliers.

    By the way, did dinosaurs really exist? What happened to them and who are their descendants?

    I'll refrain from calling you an idiotic douchebag who knows he is lying scum out of respect for Hasbeen's forum and his request for civility.
     
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    You sure about that?

    You made the same claim about the power of prayer and when I provided a link to a peer reviewed article you ignored it.

    You are a joke dude. Just as blind as you claim Christians are.

    BTW, who is hanging thier hat on the Bible? Certainly not me. i have provided plenty of scientific evidence OUTSIDE OF THE BIBLE for the existence of a creator which you have ignored.

    I am even willing to concede that that creator is not GOD but might be something else....just something intelligent....which is why I have no problem with your sphagetti monster.
     

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