Carr's opportunity

And why hasn't anyone brought up Jarrett's lost contributions yet? Isn't he the one to save Carr and the Panther's season?

 

he cant contribute if he doesnt play

 

For the record, I've played Madden once in my entire life, but I do know for a fact that the QB can fuck up a running play before the ball is even snapped if he has a "tell". I don't know if Carr does or not, but neither does anybody else here unless you've lined up across from him or have access to the coaches tapes, and even then, you would have to know what to look for and it may be impossible to see on film. Nor can anybody here know what the exact timing of a running play is unless you know the play book and exactly what play is called or what everybody's responsibility is when you're watching it.

Carr looked off to me, I'm no expert, but that's my opinion. In fact, there were a couple of times where Foster looked like he wasn't even expecting the ball...those were obvious to any average Joe who's only played in junior high school.

Since Carr has been in this offense as long as Jake has, and has in fact, had alot more NFL reps than Jake has, I expect him to execute it at least as well as he did...I really don't think that's too much to ask. In fact, all I heard before now was how he was a #1 pick and was supposed to be better than Jake. I'm afraid I'm gonna need visual proof of that. Talk is cheap.

Finally,I really don't get why Carr gets a pass from some of the same fans who've been blasting the shit out of Delhomme for about 2 years now. Some of y'all are acting like Carr is a rookie that is still learning the game and just needs time to learn. The guy is a 5 year vet, and his INT was just as bad as Moore's, who had less than 5 minutes of NFL experience when he threw his almost INT, BTW. The sack Carr got hurt on was his own fault too...he had plenty of time to get rid of the ball and he sure as hell didn't have to run backwards like he seems to do everytime he gets pressured. I noticed that little habit the first time I saw him in the pre season and it worried me even then. I see a 15-20yd sack in his future if he keeps that shit up.

Like I said before, I hope he proves me wrong, but nobody on this message board has.

Offense under Jake-24 points a game and Davidson is a genius.


Offense under Carr-10 points a game (but it's the play calling) yeah, right.

 

I think you're lumping in too camps-those that highly criticized Delhomme and those that are saying Carr is not as bad as some are saying. It's really not an either/or as to whether you like Delhomme or think Carr is going to play better than he's looked.

Anyone with any sense would much rather see Delhomme in there at this point, but it's not going to happen. That being said, we're still alive in the weakening division. We need Carr to get better as we head down the line. If at some point, we're out of possibility of the playoffs, then we may want to look at Moore.

 

I agree with all of this.

That said - it's still his chance. A second one. And we need him.

 

we do.

And it's fine if he's gotta game manage instead of make some things happen, but then we're much more reliant on the other parts that aren't working any better than he is. He doesn't need to carry the rest of the team, but I don't think we should carry him either. Hopefully it all comes to play ASAP.

 

Do you even think about the things you're posting? "I have no idea if Carr could be doing this and there's no evidence to suggest that he is, but I'm sure that he's fucking it up!" Good lord, man, get a grip. There is absolutely no reason to think that Carr is in any way affecting the running game, and suggesting that it looks worse with him in there just makes you look like a biased ranter without the slightest clue what you're talking about and no actual concern for whether or not you're speaking legitimately since the only thing that matters to you is the opportunity to dump on Carr.

No, you're the opposite of an expert, and there is no evidence whatsoever to support your "opinion." It's no more valid than the buffoons who think that we'd be better off with Matt Moore, but wait, you're one of those guys too. Congratulations on being utterly clueless.

Dude, just stop. Seriously, when you say things like this you look Thelt-level dumb. There were not plays where Carr handed off and the running back didn't know that it was a running play. That's just ridiculous.

Except that no one else saw them. You're coming across as a Chicken Little with a grudge against Carr.

Are you really so ignorant that you can't grasp the difference between being the starter in practice and being the backup?

No, that's not a fact. Carr has played in 79 career games, while Jake has played in 77.

Point out anyone who actually said that. You're just randomly making things up at this point because you're losing this argument so badly.

No one is saying that Carr played great against New Orleans, just that you obviously have no clue whatsoever what you're talking about when you pretend that he's awful or that our season is sunk with him at quarterback. What you need to do is shut your mouth for a week, stop smoking crack, and come down off the ledge. Carr had one bad throw against the Saints and a lot of others that were on target. HE DID NOT PLAY POORLY AGAINST NEW ORLEANS. What is so fucking hard to grasp about that? Really, what is your mental deficiency? He was accurate, he made his reads, and he moved the ball. He wasn't asked to do much because of the poor gameplan, but when given the chance he got the job done. There was nothing about that game that justifies you dumping on him or whining like a bitch that our season is supposedly over. Just .

Wrong. I completely and thoroughly proved you wrong about his performance against New Orleans to the point that you had to make up nonsense about Foster not knowing that there were running plays. You said that Carr wasn't looking downfield and I proved you wrong by showing that he did it multiple times against the Saints. You said that he wasn't effective when I showed that he did well given the few number of attempts he had, not to mention additional yards that were hidden by penalties. You said that the play-calling didn't hurt him when I showed that seven different times during that game we ran on consecutive first and second downs. You have been proven so thoroughly wrong that you should just stop talking about it for a good while. Now stop freaking out and be quiet.

 

Wow, I was proven wrong. I guess 10-17 119yds 1 TD and 1 boneheaded INT, is actually a pro bowl caliber performance that was only hampered by the poor play calling of Jeff Davidson. Apparently you just need to write enough big words and use enough insults, all the while talking down to people and bragging about how much smarter you are than everybody else, and that statement magically comes true. Nevermind the fact that an undrafted rookie came in the same damn game and led a 69yd field goal drive in his first EVER NFL game. I stand corrected.

 

Who is sending him to the Pro Bowl? You need to get a grip on your emotions because you continue to come across as a ranting buffoon without the slightest bit of emotional control. Losing your starting QB, the guy you're familiar with, is traumatic. I get that. Everyone gets that. But deal with it. Dumping on Carr just because you're pissed and scared about Jake being gone for the season is stupid, counter-productive, and unnecessary.

Except that he didn't. He completed one long pass against a secondary that was napping because they didn't think we'd go long on an undrafted rookie's first attempt. He did absolutely nothing else, and it is only a measure of your ignorance and your panic that you're trying to turn that one play into evidence that Moore is our best option at quarterback. It's fucking ludicrous.

You said that Carr didn't go long enough. I proved you wrong.
You said that Carr wasn't productive enough. I proved you wrong.
You said that play-calling was not an issue. I proved you wrong.

Now please chill out before I actually get pissed with you.

 

Funny you should mention that because last year (i think, maybe the year before) there was a comedic piece done by the guys at sportscenter about QB's that lick their fingers prior to a pass play. Delhomme was a major culprit of this act. (I used to do it myself all the time playing scrum half in Rugby, it becomes second nature). This was then picked up by some newspapers that did their own take on it.

Now, think about all the flack Carr gets for wearing those gameday color gloves he wears. In a recent interview he said that one of the benefits of doing so is that he doesnt have to lick his fingures and giving away said "tell".