Panthers/Patriots game thread

I really think it's funny how this is all about competitiveness for you, and not about what happened. Sure, stand on a consensus of three people in chat. I broke down some film and saw some things I didn't expect, and some things I didn't want, and some things I did. Which is fine, I know that's what was at work with you here anyway, but I figured I'd share to the large share of the board that wasn't the majority what I found and why.

 

Except that it isn't. What bugs me is that you deny something that certainly appears to be true, since everyone else who has commented has seen it that way, presumably because of your investment in seeing Davis succeed at SLB. It's not about "beating" you, because in my mind you were never competition on this subject. I don't need to convince others because the others already see what I see. And I don't need to "beat" you because this really isn't something that's up for debate in my eyes. To me, it's just annoying that you choose to see something that isn't there, that's all.

And of course, I'm not the one pretending that things are different than they actually are, so you can't really say that I'm not interested in what Davis is really doing. I am concerned, because I've seen him not be active this preseason.

 

color me surprised (and, of course, badd). I watched the tape, did the work, and I saw what I saw. I noted when he got blocked and when he didn't. I'd say his problem isn't that he got blocked out of plays, it was that he wasn't staying in his hole. But by all means, stand on no work. I know I'm wrong by default on anything that you believe you "caught" me on, but I'm not worried about that or the typical tricks. But if any of the three people that make up the chat consensus want to actually discourse on this, by all means. Maybe they have something worth adding.

 

I like how you pretend that it's just some random people in chat when hasbeens noted the same thing in this very thread, as have others in different threads. So I guess you can dismiss hasbeens out of hand in generalities, but you get uncomfortable when confronted about whether or not you're dismissing him specifically.

You. Are. The. Only. One. Who. Sees. Davis. Being. Active. This. Preseason.

 

since I'm not seeing this great uproar in the forums, I was guessing that the two plays I detailed were the ones they were harping about, and that chat was where the 'silent majority' of yours was.

and he's not put up a huge fight about it. Which is neat. But I know he can discuss it with me civilly. Fun stuff, actually talking about the subject instead of being hung up on leghumping.

 

It's because few people care to actually argue with you since you are so stubborn and they know that it's useless to ever try and get you to admit that you were wrong about something.

You claimed that the only people who saw it the way that I did were "the three people that make up the chat consensus." You have repeatedly been dismissing his credibility in general terms, but you're obviously uncomfortable with doing it to him specifically.

The fact is that you said Davis was active this preseason, and you were wrong about that. This would not have been an argument if you weren't a stubborn ass who refuses to admit when he's wrong even if statistics, game tape, and the opinions of others all side against you.

And as I've been telling you for years, the ironic thing is that you don't want to admit that you're wrong about anything because you're scared of losing credibility, when it's actually defending obviously wrong positions that damages your credibility in the first place. Things would be so much easier for you if you could just get some professional help with learning to acknowledge your mistakes. Saying that Davis was active when he wasn't is not a big deal. Getting defensive and trying to maintain that position in the face of all available evidence is what got you in this mess.

 

That's the thing. You pretend I made a mistake and want to nail me on it, but I didn't. I said what I saw, and then watched the tape and saw something similar and shared my own concerns. Obviously, that has no bearing on you, because this isn't about Thomas Davis. I watched the game from endzone angle, I broke down tape, and that wasn't something that you even bothered to read, which tells me what I need to know.

And by all means, show the consensus. I've yet to see mass criticism, and wasn't concerned with chat, but by all means, show me the tons of negatives thrown at Davis so far.

 

No objective person could ever think that Davis was "active" this pre-season, which is why no one else shares your viewpoint on that. The statistics show that he wasn't, and the games show that he wasn't. Again, no one is agreeing with you.

 

too bad you didn't have anything to actually say about Davis the last few attempts, isn't it? You know acting like this dismisses so much of your ranting, because you do much better when you bring actual facts to the table.

Oh well.

 

Why do I get the feeling that you 2 are not using the same definition/interpretation of the word active?