Panthers/Patriots game thread

That's not at all accurate. Others have commented on it in other threads, and there were also a number of people talking about it in chat, although you wouldn't know that since you were at the game. When you watch it on television, you'll presumably see Davis getting walked down the field by Pats blockers (although he's not the only one), but still, you probably should have realized from previous games that he's not having an impact.

Because Gantt and Reed are so perceptive, right? Do you get your talking points from them now?

Seven tackles the entire preseason (four against the run) is not being active. Various people have commented on Beason, Seward, Anderson, etc flying around the ball. No one besides you has said that about Davis because he's not showing up for whatever reason.

 

I imagine that means "because I was at the game". Plus, I think we both know that chat is really, really retarded overall. If "but people said it in chat"

I broke down two prior games' worth of tape and didn't see him getting exploited.

oh good lord.
Plus in the last few days Gantt's articles have included criticism of Harris and Beason, including the players' own words, on specific weaknesses and mistakes, things I've not seen in local sports journalism in recent years.

Didn't say he had a ton of tackles. Didn't say he was excelling against the run. He's also not been a liability from what I saw, but again, you could show me some examples and I'll gladly take a look. I've broken down the first few drives from the first team in the first two games and not seen what you're descrbing, but I'm not trying to be staunch and dig in for some retarded fight. I'm open to this, I'm just not seeing the vicious mob you're describing or being blown off the ball like you're describing.

 

Chat is retarded in terms of chatter, but the content is as good there as anywhere on this board or the Lair. My point was that you're trying to portray this as something I just brought up, when it is not. Other people were commenting on Davis getting washed by the camera, which is when I really started to think about how invisible he has been this preseason.

New York had success running the ball against the first team defense, and the Pats thoroughly abused them. Philadelphia didn't really try.

Do you honestly think that Gantt is more astute than the average poster in either Panthers forum?

If he is not showing up and not making tackles, then he is not being active.

You'll see it when you watch the Patriots game.

 

Can't you people just be happy with the fact that tomorrow's game vs the Steelers doesn't count?

 

maybe not, but I haven't noticed wide-ranging dogging of Davis at all, and especially after posting specific actions of what he was doing in a few drives. I'm sure you could find a mention or two of Davis negatively, but I don't remember anything at all of the level you're suggesting. If the roles were reversed, you'd say you said something positive about a player and I jumped on it because of immense spite.

average? Sure.

maybe so.

I've not seen examples of this in the past things I've broken down, that you've not refuted in any case. Still would be nice to have some actual examples of him being engaged on a blocker when he's not in contain, or even just acknowledgement that he's playing a role he won't be playing regular season. I don't expect he was 2nd on tackles last year simply because he was playing behind Peppers, either.

 

despite the general retardedness of the steeler nation, yeah, actually I am. It's not that I expect Pittsburgh to win everything this year, but I don't think we'll fare above average against a very good defense like this, our O's still on a learning curve, and I believe a team like the Rams to be a cakewalk in comparison. So yeah, I'd rather not be opening up with the Steelers right now.

 

Again, everyone who is commenting on the issue is concurring with what I'm saying, whereas no one seems to be seeing what you have. So I don't think we can really pretend that it's just me doing something out of spite.

Based on what? I've seen plenty of posters make insightful comments, whereas I've rarely found a Gantt column useful at all, and when he does have something it's almost always a spin off of a source or someone else's idea.

I think pointing out the fact that Thomas Davis only had one tackle in the first two preseason games (3-4 total quarters) rather convincingly refutes the idea that he was "active."

And you know this because?

88 total tackles is not good for a starting linebacker, especially one without rush responsibilities. He finished 2nd because we had so many injuries at various positions.

 

well, I'd hate to let a consensus be wrong. Certainly, everything I saw was 100% wrong and I should change my opinion without seeing tape.

If absolutely nothing else, paying attention and having access would put Gantt above average.

I don't know for certain, just like I don't know he won't be playing right guard. I do know that this defense doesn't run the 3-4 more than a gimmick play or two and I know that our SLB hasn't lined up outside the end for plays at a time, and certainly you know that as well.

you checking the gamebook quickly is exactly the same as showing an example of what you speak of, or tape study in general. I can see the correlation, sure.

ehh. Being second in tackles in your first year starting isn't catastrophic either. Fields has fewer in the same spot, and same with Short.
Odd how you're battling every last non-negative I've brought up about Davis, isn't it?

 

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its countdown......