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Discussion in 'MLB - Baseball Forum' started by 49erpi, Jun 10, 2007.

  1. barry49s

    barry49s Ain’t good for nothing

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    I thought that was very sweet of the Pirates to honor Barry Bonds.
     
  2. MikeNinerHunt

    MikeNinerHunt Fast white guy

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    That was awesome! A classy act for the greatest baseball player ever!
     
  3. CunningRunt

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    So what you're saying is that mathematically they still have a chance of having a winning record. Logically on the other hand...see you at our favorite watering hole.
     
  4. Wise One

    Wise One No Doubt

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    Thanks Bucs. They beat the mucking Fets tonight. Braves need the help.

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    MikeNiner. Shows how ignorant you are about baseball. At least Barry was clean with the Pirates. He never hit a ball more than 450 feet in a game ever till he was on roids and was hitting .290 till he started taking drugs, and He's still not even a lifetime .300 hitter. The Pirates will never have "The curse of Barry" because he was a constant choker in the postseason and never got it done in October. Ruth is pretty much the founding father of the New York Yankees. They weren't jack till he came along. He also changed the entire way baseball was played and saved baseball from its tarnished image from the Black Sox scandal. Meanwhile Barry is creating a tarnished image that people like Ruth helped save the game from. Read the book "The Year Babe Ruth hit 104 homeruns" and you will completely change your mind on who is the greatest and it's not close. He would've been the winningest lefty of all time had he not gone to the field. His 1921 season is the greatest offensive season of all time (the year he would've hit 104 homeruns if he played in the same dimensions as Turner Field in Atlanta, an average size park for today's standards if not above average.) including Barry's 73 homerun season. Bonds has an average of about 45 points below Ruth to. Ruth was really only a hitter for 16 seasons which makes his numbers more incredible. Several Studies have shown that throughout the history of the game there has been no person, no one, even in today's era of muscles and steroids no one has still been able to hit the ball as far or as hard as Ruth which is unbelievable considering he played 80 years ago in his prime. Fuck Barry Bonds.I hope Michael Vick would've have held his head under water or electrocuted him. You can't choke in the playoffs and never win a ring and be the best ever. The best ever's careers are capped off by their performances in October. With that said, the Orioles were great in the 60's, 70's, and early 80's. Ever since Jeffrey Mayer we just can't seem to get it done. Angelos is the worst owner ever. At least the Pirates can always hang their hats on Mazeroski's homer.
     
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  6. MikeNinerHunt

    MikeNinerHunt Fast white guy

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    Gee, that's funny. Sports Illustrated had an article called "the Evolution of Barry Bonds" a couple of weeks ago. It listed his longest home runs of every season, and here are the ones before 1999, the year everyone agrees he started juicing:

    1988 475 ft.
    1995 465 ft.
    1997 460 ft.

    He also topped 440 feet, in 1992, 1993, 1994, and 1998. That's pretty close.

    At the bottom of the article reads, "longest home run distances courtesy of Bill Jenkinson, baseball historian and author of The Year Babe Ruth Hit 104 Home Runs" Hey, isn't that the guy you brought up in your post? So he must be pretty reliable, right?

    that was a lifetime own. Thanks for the 70 mph curveball that didn't curve.
     
  7. MikeNinerHunt

    MikeNinerHunt Fast white guy

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    Did he also figure in today's stadards of pitchers who were non American born whites, blacks, Latinos, and Asians? Probably not. Lefty on lefty specialists just to face Ruth in the late innings of a game? Probably not again.

    Jimmie Foxx hit 58 homers a decade or so later, but there was a screen in Cleveland that kept the ball in play that wasn't there when Ruth hit 60 in 1927. Old time scribes claim Foxx hit it three times in the final week of the season, and who knows if he did it a couple of times in the middle of the year. How many homers did Ruth hit when that screen wasn't in place?

    Let's say the Giants stayed in Manhattan in the Dodgers in Brooklyn. (Did you know they played there before California?) Or the Pirates never moved out of Forbes Field. If Barry Bonds played in the fifties, Ebbets and Forbes field were no more than 300 feet down the right field line, I think Ebbets under 285 feet. He would have had 900 career homers back then.

    Woulda, coulda, shoulda.
     
  8. MikeNinerHunt

    MikeNinerHunt Fast white guy

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    I know, the Yankees debuted around 1901 or so, they were the Highlanders for a couple of years. That was a long 19 year wait.
     
  9. 49erpi

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    Mutherfucking owned.
     
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    Sorry about that. I was in a fit of rage as you could see. I misquoted and should have said 500 foot home runs so I guess i get owned for that. Thank you for pointing out that I embarrased myself with bad information }:eek:( It's a good book and a real good read. It is so detailed it almost seems like he was out there watching him play and pitch when he was a teenager. Still amazing numbers for a guy playing in the early 20th century with very poor training (in terms of today's standards) jack around 45 500 foot homeruns. Damn you 49er for being on your toes. I didn't read the Sports Illustrated article to see how far Bonds hit the ball after he took steroids. I just find it hard to believe that Bonds never hit a ball 500 feet in a game because some of his hits to right field were just huge. I remember going to Three Rivers to see Bonds play and I loved it. They played Gwynn and the Padres one day and then Juan Samuel and the Dodgers the next. That team had a ton of talent. Andy Van Slyke jacked a homerun to center and John Smiley was on the mound. Those were the days. What exactly happened in Pittsburgh
     
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