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rickey henderson

Discussion in 'MLB - Baseball Forum' started by gridfaniker, Jul 13, 2007.

  1. vpkozel

    vpkozel Professional Calvinballer

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    Boggs was a strictly take it to the wall guy, so I really have no idea why you are bringing him up here. I honestly can't remember the breakdown on Mo. Ortiz has more homers away from home too. Gammons has commented many times that Dimaggio and Williams would both have benefited from switching parks - which is why they were almost traded for each other. Even Mattingly mentions it in the hitting discussion I posted.

    What does this have to do with Yaz v. Henderson agan?

    How many guys have 3000 hits and 400 homers?
     
  2. Collin

    Collin soap and water

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    Ortiz hits the vast majority of his fly balls between left center and right center, and Fenway is one of the worst parks for players who hit straightaway.

    I pointed out that Yaz's career road numbers are mediocre and ever since you've been trying to explain it away.
    Neither his hit rate or his home run rate are exceptional. The reason he reached those milestones is that he played forever. I believe he still ranks second all-time in games played and third in at-bats. There is obviously something to be said for durability and longevity, but that doesn't make Cal Ripken one of the greatest players of all-time either.
     
  3. vpkozel

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    I haven't tried to explain it away at all. It's perplexxing, no doubt, but it is only one piece of the puzzle.

    And no one is arguing that he is one of the all time greats - at least, I'm not.
     
  4. gridfaniker

    gridfaniker Loathsome

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    absolutely. I assume you'd agree that a great leadoff hitter's ability to score runs depends heavily on the players hitting behind them.
    FYI: I don't recall anyone ever saying Yaz was a better leadoff hitter than Rickey. Just as no one has said Rickey was a better third or clean-up/power hitter than Yaz.
     
  5. kshead

    kshead What's the spread?

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    Kshead is not gonna read this shit.

    Kshead just wants to know - anyone shot Grid yet?
     

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