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Running Red Sox thread

Discussion in 'MLB - Baseball Forum' started by vpkozel, Apr 25, 2005.

  1. MikeNinerHunt

    MikeNinerHunt Fast white guy

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    You never put any money on that one, did you?
     
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    It never had close the distance. Pedroia was one of the top rated AAA players last year and the highest rated Sox non-pitching prospect in 2006. Now: .331 BA, .404 OBP, .989 fielding, AL Rookie of the Month in May.

    sometimes you just gotta sit down, shut up and pay attention, knowing that 20 games does not a season make.

    If this guy ends up being the second coming of Jody Reed — I think he'll be better — it wouldn't be such a bad thing. Reed wasn't too shabby in replacing Spike Owen, the 1988 version of Mark Loretta.
     
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    MikeNinerHunt Fast white guy

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    If you read the quote again, I pointed out he had played in 50 or so Major League games. It doesn't a career make, but it sure was time for him to get moving. He must have read my complaining. My prediction was wrong.

    How was Spike Owen, a shortstop all through 88, a version of Mark Loretta, a 2B all of 2006? Jody Reed does have that in common with Pedroia; he's a second baseman who has no business playing SS. John Valentin permanently put Reed at 2B. Nuff said.
     
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    Dude, he screwed up his shoulder.
     
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    Looks like someone is gettnig a little defensive.......
     
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    As Scooby would say, Ruh roh. A few rough August starts doesn't a contract make.
     
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    MikeNinerHunt Fast white guy

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    But, you made a bad prediction, correct? It happens here and there. Kind of like I did with Pedroia.
     
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    It was time for him to get going? thank goodness good GMs possess a little something called patience (although I wish Epstein had used it with Renteria). Pedroia isn't the only rook who's started off slow and then made something of himself. you were calling for his head before the end of April. ridiculous.


    positions aside, Reed was a youngster who supplanted an aging starter (Owen) who was adequate at best, just like Pedroia is a youngster who supppanted an aging starter (Loretta) who was adequate at best. Therein lies the similarity. Owen had no long-term future with the club; Reed did and needed the chance to perform every day. Loretta had no long term future with the club; Pedroia does and needs the chance to perform every day. 'Nuff said.
     
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    wow! you screw the pooch royally on your Pedroia assessment and are now in save face mode, scrambling desperately through pages and pages of old posts. You go girl. that contract has more than 2 1/2 years left. I hope like hell I'm wrong and will be the first to admit if/when I am, but let's wait and see how Beckett fares in August and September.

    fwimfw, Beckett has a 24-11 record (.685 winning percentage) with a 4.52 ERA, 217 strikeouts and 90 walks (2.4 Ks per BB) so far with the sox. Let's say by the end of he performs somewhere in between what he did in '06 and what he's done so far in '07. He could make about 100 starts during the length of the contract, and go 70-30 with an ERA around 4.00 and a 3:1 strikeout-walk ratio. If he does that, it'll have been a really good bargain, but not the heist of the century it was being touted as when first signed.
     
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    MikeNinerHunt Fast white guy

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    Spike Owen DOB 4/19/61 Final MLB game 1995
    Jody Reed DOB 7/26/62 Final MLB game 1997

    I guess the old saying is right. Don't trust anybody born before 1962. It's a good thing we got rid of that old, decrepid, Spike Owen. He had a Fld. Pct. over .980 through the early nineties with Montreal at shortstop.

    That situation is very similar to Loretta-Pedroia. I didn't realize making the MLB all star team is "adequate at best."
     

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