Davidson In ?!

Good points there, yes. A reason I wasn't too excited.

I rarely drop an account, no matter how much I may want to until I have replaced it. Sometimes, I'm convinced that anything is better and jump the gun before I've done that. Maybe Fox felt Henning just had to go.

 

I'm sure that the decision was made based on the merit of Henning, and not Henning v/s whoever was out there. We could've had Fassel, but as of yet no one else has. I'd rather there be a process as to who's hired, rather than just "I"m going to fire Henning because I'm going to promote McCoy/hire Fassell/etc"

 

Heh, no. I still have plenty of games from that year, dude. A few months back, I popped one in, and it was just fucking DREADFUL. We were awful bad that year.

 

It quite obviously wasn't, unless they fired him for shooting his mouth off to the media. The play-calling was no worse than in previous years. Moreover, previously you said yourself that we shouldn't make a move without feeling that someone better is out there.


And lde's point is really rubbing me the wrong way. It already bugged me that Crennel didn't think enough of him to give him the job in '05, but he got passed over again this off-season? Just because he got rejected by the Browns twice doesn't necessarily make him an idiot, but it damn sure doesn't make him look good.

 

No, it's a fact.

No it isnt. Again, if you want to make the point that he was passed over, fair enough. But neither coach ever made noise that he wasnt good enough to be OC, rather they both gave him the reigns to the OC job when needed. That totally counters what you said.

I wouldn't have felt any better with McCoy, but what I hoped for was someone with actual experience. Say what you want about Henning, but while he may not have been the most dynamic offensive coordinator in the world you certainly knew he was going to be solid. We have no idea what we're getting with Davidson, and while it may be great, I don't think you make that move unless you know that you're going to be upgrading. Although it may eventually turn out that way, there is no way I can look at Davidson vs. Henning and see that as an upgrade right now.


Fair enough. Henning was what he was, but the players are speaking, and it wasnt working. A solid offense? Well, sometimes.

Time will tell if this is an upgrade or not, but for now, Im pretty happy about it.

 

Yes, it is. I didn't say they thought he wasn't good enough to be an OC somewhere else, I said they didn't think highly enough to make him their OC. And they didn't. Belichick could have hired him and didn't, but maybe McDaniels really is that much more promising. Ok, but why then didn't Belichick make an effort to keep him in New England? And why didn't Crennel give him a chance in '05 if he was this promising? Then as noted above, the most disturbing thing of all is that they didn't choose him this time either. It's the Cleveland Browns, man, the Browns. They know him better than anyone, presumably, and they didn't think enough of him to make him their OC. Instead they chose some other guy who has never been an OC before either.

 

Collin,

Given your opinion that Henning was solid, you point makes sense. I don't want to redebate it, but I don't think Henning was solid. Not nearly. So taking a chance makes more sense to me.

 

Whisenhunt had him as an OC candidate. Wonder if he gives it to Grimm now or just keeps Grimm as OL coach.

(or interviews Henning, as has been speculated)

 

The thing about the Browns is interesting. Hm. I love the hire, but sure, I'm curious as to why he DIDNT get the job in Cleveland. WHy would they make him their interim OC, the players SWEAR BY HIM, and not keep him there?

Was it that they wouldnt make a commitment? Im not sure if Cleveland even HAS an OC right now. Huh. I'll have to dig around, but I can certainly see how a skeptic could run with this.

I have to say though, at this point, someone who takes into account our player personnel would be an upgrade though, over someone who runs the same plays we ran our Superbowl season with a different group.

 

The play calling may or may not have been worse, but the offense was. They felt they wanted change, and they sought change. That's based on his own merit.

You can't deny that he was made assistant head coach, which isn't done lightly, that he was promoted to interim OC, that Mangini wanted him, or that AZ wanted him. Those are undeniably good things.



There's generally a compromise with coaches. Either you grab a guy coming up, or you pull a guy on his way down. He wasn't my first choice, but he has some strong backing, and he's wanted. That's "on the way up". And if a quarter of the things being said about McCoy are actually true, this offense should be able to put something together.