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What if you just dont give a damn?

Discussion in 'Religion & Spirituality Forum' started by KrackMonkey, Nov 29, 2005.

  1. KrackMonkey

    KrackMonkey Got a light?

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    Actually, what I was trying to get going, is what do Christians think are going to happen to atheists/non-believers?

    I mean, as far as what I believe...I believe that when we die, we are worm food. Our lives are over. Simple as that. When your dog dies, you bury/dispose of him, and get a new dog.

    I dont believe that things "happen for a reason."

    As Neo stated in the Matrix, "I dont like the idea that I'm not in charge of my own destiny." So, therefore, I belief that life is life. Not a test of sorts to determine your continued "status" in the proverbial afterlife. And that what happens is directly related to and proportional to decisions I make/made.

    I do not believe in any higher power, whether good or bad. This world is a result of billions of years of scientific evolution, based on chemistry and mathematics, not a deity snapping its fingers and saying "let there be light."

    I've found that Christian believers somewhat eyeroll me when I mention or bring up that I am an atheist. They dont want thought-out discussion about how they could be wrong, or even how I could be wrong. They just shun you away like some retarded kid they dont want to deal with. I find that extremely shallow, and it seems to be a large trend among the hardcore believers. Definitely in a minority, but it's one I'm willing to accept.

    I believe that religion, to most people, is some kind of false hope, to make them feel better about themselves and to allow them to live some sort of false pretense that we live in a generally good and decent world, when in actuality, it is quite benign.
     
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    jazzbluescat superstar...yo.

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    I agree somewhat, except hope, albeit false, can afford comfort. And knowing that nothing's really changed spiritually since the beginning of time, or since literate man, can give one a certain amount of "confidence."
     
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    Religions have come and gone throughout history, and they provide support to those who need it in what can be a tough world. There is no "right" or "wrong" religion, nor is wrong to have NO religion. Support whatever faith you wish, as long as you don't impose your beliefs on others.
     
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    See....by what you're saying, I tend to believe that what I say is even MORE true. That there IS no real religion or God or Allah or afterlife for that matter.

    Just false hopes.
     
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    hasbeen99 Fighting the stereotype

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    Well, "Christians" may actually vary in their beliefs. But according to the Bible, anyone who has not willingly chosen to accept the claims about Christ as outlined in the Bible itself, and devoted his or her life fully to living in obedience to Him, then that person faces judgment as outlined in Romans 2 (and elsewhere). Basically, the more you've been taught about who Jesus is and the more you've been exposed to the Bible itself, the less chance you have of being accepted by God if you don't believe. If a person is fully aware of the Gospel, but rejects it outright, there is no hope of salvation, as outlined in Hebrews 10:26-31

     
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    :thud: quality
     
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    hasbeen99 Fighting the stereotype

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    The truth of the matter is that no one has been able to say, unequivocally and without question, that there IS no God any more than anyone can say absolutely and without question that there IS a God. Both require an element of choice and trust, and neither side has absolute, complete proof (yet).
     
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    Exactly, it takes faith to believe anything. If you are a christian or an atheist you have a set of beliefs and therefore place your faith in something. As an atheist you place your faith in science and human understanding of the nature of the universe. You are still however operating by faith.

    I think most christians, and I know I personally feel this way, have had an experience where they feel that they encountered God. When I accepted Christ I felt God's presence. I have felt it at other times since then. As an atheist you would probably say this is just my emotions deceiving me, which again goes back to faith.

    As a practical matter it is better to die a christian and have the athiests have been correct than to die an athiest and find out the christians were right.
     
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    KrackMonkey Got a light?

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    That's VERY subjective.
     
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    Does not seem so to me. The consequences are so dissimilar so as to make it objective.
     

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